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re: U.S. Steel CEO Says 10,000 Jobs To Be Brought Back… All Because Of Trump

Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:26 pm to
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True, the days of solid, middle class pay for a semi-skilled assembly position that lasts for 35 years are long gone and ain't coming back. We need to quit lying to folks about this so they can adapt to current and future realities.
Yeah. We rightfully tell the minimum wage workers who argue for a "living wage" to grow and adapt to the job market, so we shouldn't be withholding the same argument from those who are waiting for lower skilled manufacturing jobs to return.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:35 pm to
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We rightfully tell the minimum wage workers who argue for a "living wage" to grow and adapt to the job market, so we shouldn't be withholding the same argument from those who are waiting for lower skilled manufacturing jobs to return.


I think we're in a cycle where we're telling those min wage workers "it's their fault" for not adapting, while telling the former factory workers it's someone else's fault. Biases at play perhaps....
Posted by dewster
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:45 pm to
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We rightfully tell the minimum wage workers who argue for a "living wage" to grow and adapt to the job market


A fair and logical suggestion for people who are demanding upwards of 100% hike in minimum wage for one of the many entry level service jobs out there.

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we shouldn't be withholding the same argument from those who are waiting for lower skilled manufacturing jobs to return


Seems like both the left and right agree that there is a problem, but differ massively on how to address it.

The problem is that there are not enough job opportunities for low skill workers to have the upward mobility that they need to live comfortably off of their wages. That reality helped shape the "occupy" protests from 4 years ago and was likely a driving force behind the rise of populism in 2016.

The obvious (to me) solution is:

1. Document and explore the real challenges faced by companies in those industries and honestly evaluate the role of government in their struggles. Some of them can't be helped, but many can.

2. Implement meaningful changes to help facilitate growth in manufacturing within the US and encourage investment into manufacturing facilities. That could mean overhauling needlessly heavy handed environmental regulations, a simple streamlining of permitting processes, or the daunting task of revamping the corporate tax structure.

3. Organize and invest in trade school facilities that can help prepare low skilled workers for higher paying jobs out there. This should probably come in conjunction with drug abuse treatment centers to help the labor pool prepare for their future. Both worthy investments.

Simply mandating that minimum wage be hiked for low skill jobs is a cop out and represents either a misunderstanding of the economic realities of America today or an obvious pandering scheme to low income voters. Likely both, as there is ample evidence that progressive lawmakers (and some republicans) have demonstrated the lack of understanding of the movement of capital and the need to pander to low income voters without actually helping them. Hiking minimum wage is not a medium or long term solution to the problems they face. It's a cop out.

From where I am sitting, Trump is at least trying to understand and address the realities faced by manufacturing companies. He has not pledged to destroy entire industries with environmental red tape. He has not indicated a desire to ignore the plight of workers just because they belong to a labor union that shovels money into the campaigns of his opponents. He has neither pledged to force card check or fight organized labor. He seems to be meeting with representatives of major manufacturers and trying to understand their issues. That's more than what we've seen out of Washington politicians in a while, and it's refreshing.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 8:52 pm
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