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re: If the company you were working for was committing fraud?

Posted on 11/16/16 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by Sidicous
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/16/16 at 12:05 pm to
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Must have more details....


Google Commercial Financial Services, Bill Bartmann at one time was the 2nd richest man in the USA before their fraudulent Securities Scheme went public.

They started by buying the loans from the RTC from the late 80's S&L Crisis. Then expanded into buying bad debt from banks and stuff. They then repackaged those debts and used them as "security" to issue bonds. No problem there.

The problem was using the same debt as security on multiple bonds. If Joe's credit card debt is used to securitize Bond A then it cannot be used to bonds B,C,D and E.

However, the problem with bonds is they specify: will pay X principal + Y interest on specific date Z. Cash flow is paramount and growth for the company depends on constantly buying more debt as debtors have a tendency to payoff. So, how to buy when paying off bonds which were used to buy debt?

They even setup a shell company in a nearby small city with the idea to bankrupt it after a period, to borrow from lenders under other name, to payoff CFS debts.

Read Wikipedia with a grain of salt on CFS and Bartmann. It was not a lone rogue employee, the entire management staff was in on it. That's the reason they refused to sell to Goldman Sachs, Norwest Bank, or issue an IPO and go public. Staying a tightly held private corporation kept their financials private too.

Also the extremely high level political connections helped. For instance: Oklahoma gave $10 million jobs training grant, CFS then donated $2.5 million to school for blind of which the governor's wife was a paid board member.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85496 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:34 pm to
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Google Commercial Financial Services


So this is you...

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The trouble at the closely held company started last September, when an anonymous letter to credit-rating agencies accused the company of puffing up its apparent collection success rate by quietly selling large numbers of uncollected accounts to a shell company tied to a major shareholder


NYT article from 1998

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