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re: Question regarding the black power fist at NFL games today

Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by LABred08
Dallas, Tx
Member since Feb 2011
417 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:14 pm to
First of all, please don't try to use Barack Obama as an excuse why Black people have finally been accepted and assimilated. If that's the the case it still took wayyyy too long, but that is the argument that is asinine. Barack Obama was elected President because he was the best of the worst. Let's be honest, in 2008, there was no way any Republican would win office after the Bush Administration. The new generation of voters, reviled everything that party stood for at the time. It's balancing out now, but it was nowhere near close then, and Democrats, as progressive as they try to portray themselves to be, could not fathom a female president at that time. I was on LSU's campus the night Obama was elected President and as a Black man, we were not welcomed or felt a new dawn had come, but felt like the Old South was bound to rise again any day now. There was plenty of talk about how he should be hung, so don't act like he's the measuring stick for our cultural acceptance.

How about I work everyday in a public service job, being called the n word daily, by the same people I'm trying to help. I'm helping you but I'm less than you. How about being called the n word by a 3 or 4 year old little white girl. She wasn't just repeating, but was taught to understand what the word meant, and when to use it, again in a situation where I'm working as a teacher's helper to further kids. In a place where, most of the kids were white but most of the staff was black, who else was that guided toward? How about having no criminal record, a great gpa, good job experience and no negative remarks from any former employers, but not being hired to jobs and then testing the theory that it was because I was black and changing my race on the application from Black to Decide Not to Answer and getting calls to the same places, who wouldn't call when I stated my race.

I'm still young and yet, I'm discriminated all the time, what's sad is, I got to a point where I believed that was ok, it was normal, cause that's just the world I live in, but why? If the nation I live in says I should not have to go through that? Why not say anything? Why not stand against it?

I never said all white people are racist, that's very untrue, I'm also not of the belief that all black people aren't racist. But if I'm skeptical of a white man, based on history, I have every reason to be? What exactly is any white man's reasoning based on history, to hate or despise a black man? What was it then and what is it now?
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:17 pm to
you people's lives suck because you suck . . . and despite efforts to give you EVERY advantage, you still suck so hard that you actually prefer it over any form of advancement . . . YOU PEOPLE OPPRESS YOURSELVES
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11490 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:03 pm to
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I never said all white people are racist, that's very untrue, I'm also not of the belief that all black people aren't racist.


Quotes like these are the ones that confound me.

It's very untrue that not all whites are racist, while its also untrue that all blacks are not racist.

ISWYDT

In what I see day to day, Blacks are more racist than the whites I come across. It's just that it's an accepted thing by blacks and whites. Right now, our children are being taught that white history is racist and life will always be that way. It is a self fulfilling prophecy though, because with that line of thinking, minority children will grow to be racist, angered by the racist boogeyman from the past. White children of the last few decades who have been taught to accept all races, will eventually tire of being the target of the "racist" accusation will beckon back to hate and racism.
As long as any of it is accepted and is continued to be taught, we will never get it right.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
9621 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:28 pm to
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How about having no criminal record, a great gpa, good job experience and no negative remarks from any former employers, but not being hired to jobs and then testing the theory that it was because I was black and changing my race on the application from Black to Decide Not to Answer and getting calls to the same places, who wouldn't call when I stated my race.

This is illegal, contact the EEOC with information and documentation. I would also verify that they were in fact hiring both times, but this shouldn't happen and has been illegal for 40+ years.


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I never said all white people are racist, that's very untrue, I'm also not of the belief that all black people aren't racist.
I didn't insinuate that you did. I stated that it should be few, when you stated many. You made a point to say not all, but also made a point to say many, just as you say that the Old South will comeback any day. There are bigoted idiots all over, their opinions are irrelevant for the most part and not reflective of the majority of civilized people.

The rest of your response other than the assertion that America wasn't ready for a woman present is entirely your experiences and how you took them. They are your experiences so I won't interject my opinion other than to say that I would get TF out of wherever you live. I grew up in an area where as a white teen/young man I was a target and getting out was the best thing I ever did.
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