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re: Colin Kap converted to Islam and is engaged to BLM activist

Posted on 8/28/16 at 1:50 am to
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 1:50 am to
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But Kaep probably (on the basis of this public rhetoric) thinks of himself as very disadvantaged when he is not.

He's a black dude from the Milwaukee area and he probably paid attention to what happened in Milwaukee and Chicago, and many other cities very recently so I'm sure he's personalized some of it. A lot of black men and police officers in America have.
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I think what he's doing right now is probably some sort of social catharsis for him - trying to embrace or be embraced by his less privileged teammates

That's just nonsense in general and even sillier when you examine the nature of that team and more importantly it's head coach. He was already tenuously hanging on there and Kelly basically cleared out every outspoken personality at his last job so Kaep obviously knows that this guarantees he won't be in SF for long.
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That would probably be fine if it were being leveraged in a way that was either inclusive or productive because he offered personal investment to reach people who are truly in need - he offers neither so far as I can see.


You keep saying in order for his actions and words to have any depth he needs to do more than what he did, I don't disagree. His advocating has little weight to it but it's still his place to advocate even if he's not similarly disadvantaged.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 1:56 am to
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he probably paid attention to what happened in Milwaukee and Chicago, and many other cities very recently so I'm sure he's personalized some of it.


I'm sure he has personalized it from that statement. It isn't a reasonable thing to do though. No more than it is reasonable for white people to get up in arms about affirmative action that they aren't affected personally by.

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I think what he's doing right now is probably some sort of social catharsis for him - trying to embrace or be embraced by his less privileged teammates

That's just nonsense in general and even sillier when you examine the nature of that team and more importantly it's head coach. He was already tenuously hanging on there and Kelly basically cleared out every outspoken personality at his last job so Kaep obviously knows that this guarantees he won't be in SF for long.


You dispute the idea that his social identity is probably affecting his behavior? Then we'll have to agree to disagree. He's a light skinned black guy raised by a white family of some means. It would be really shocking if he hadn't faced pressure from both ends of the spectrum.

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You keep saying in order for his actions and words to have any depth he needs to do more than what he did, I don't disagree.


Great. That's the most important part the argument.

I'd also say it makes mostly irrelevant any of your disputations above. Posturing is all that is taking place when you don't do something meaningful.
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