re: Can you "deal" with a used car price?

Even if you built the value of that car and made a $4,000 front it's completely ethical.

These guys are dying to pay a transparent full retail price where the manufacturer is making the margin instead of the hometown dealer. They want machines or online sales to replace the 30,000 sales reps currently working.

They want their taxes to help pay those 30,000 sales guys the welfare Who are out of jobs.

They really don't like you slimy sales guys spending 2hrs after your shift ends to show them how all the controls works and to re detail the car a 2nd time because they noticed a smudge.

They don't want to haggle they just want to give that markup to overseas companies instead American people and American owners