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re: Toss Power could have some competition
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:25 am to Tigers_Saints
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:25 am to Tigers_Saints
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Tigers_Saints
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What is a "winning play"? A "winning play" is checking down to the open TE for positive gain on 1st down to give your team a manageable 2nd down.
You're confused. I'm talking about the 3rd down calls where we went pass but only put one receiver in the route tree for Harris.
No offense intended. But if you're going to discuss this let's make sure we both stay on point and don't mix what we're talking about up in an effort to criticize one side or the other.
The entire point I'm driving at is Less calling a single receiver passing play when you need a conversion, or at least as much yardage as you can generate in the situation before you hand it off to:
A.) An inconsistent at best punter and a coverage unit that leaked like a sieve and was receiving questionable coaching at that juncture.
B.) A DL that was overmatched against the top end of the SEC West due to size disadvantages (leftover adjustment from the Chavis regime where he went after lighter guys as a general rule).
You have to try to give your Special Teams, your coverage and your D as much room as possible there. So that even if you don't convert you're trying to flip field using that play and ST. If ST is a leaky boat, then the play needs to help as much as possible.
Single receiver routes aren't winning or even strategically sound playcalls in that situation and that's been my contention. They aren't winning plays in those situations in the game, and it points to a mismanagement of the offensive staff, the gameplan, the playcall. Whatever percentages you want to attach to those aspects of the program, that's debatable. But it's not winning football. You cannot argue against that.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 11:27 am
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:30 am to GFunk
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You're confused. I'm talking about the 3rd down calls where we went pass but only put one receiver in the route tree for Harris.
No, I'm not confused. We were specifically talking about a 1st down interception.
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No offense intended. But if you're going to discuss this let's make sure we both stay on point and don't mix what we're talking about up in an effort to criticize one side or the other.
Yes, you should try and do that.
Here is what you responded to:
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The point is to get the QB out of the pocket, where they were killing us, and the ball out of his hand. That was not a bad play call
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I disagree. If the point is to try and win the game, that's not a winning play. You can put the QB on the move. You can chip with a TE and keep a FB in and still run multi-receiver routes, or you can-THE HORROR-call an intermediate route with a mesh concept or drag route across the middle of the field that doesn't require a deep drop where the Rush has a chance to get to the QB.
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The entire point I'm driving at is Less calling a single receiver passing play when you need a conversion, or at least as much yardage as you can generate in the situation before you hand it off to:
Which wasn't the case on the interception play we're talking about.
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