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re: Serious self improvement question
Posted on 7/16/16 at 11:56 am to DEG
Posted on 7/16/16 at 11:56 am to DEG
For me, a big change I needed to make (a lesson I only learned via a failed marriage) is that I had to set the boundaries in my relationships better. It's tough to make those changes in existing relationships, but you have to make sure that people understand what you're okay with and what you're not okay with as far as how they treat you, and in your relationship with kids or underlings at work, what you're okay with in terms of how they behave. If you don't make consequences happen when people exceed their boundaries with you, they will always walk over you to the extent that you allow.
It's weird to think of this as self improvement but it has made a huge difference in my life.
If anything else I would say that for me and my (2nd) wife, I had to learn to trust her because I was projecting behaviors on her that I had carried over from my first marriage.
Me and my dog (1.5yrs old) and me and my kid (he's a newborn): patience patience patience. You are the adult, so don't get frustrated when they don't get something right away. They need time to grow and learn and you will be rewarded later if you keep your cool and stay consistent with them.
It's weird to think of this as self improvement but it has made a huge difference in my life.
If anything else I would say that for me and my (2nd) wife, I had to learn to trust her because I was projecting behaviors on her that I had carried over from my first marriage.
Me and my dog (1.5yrs old) and me and my kid (he's a newborn): patience patience patience. You are the adult, so don't get frustrated when they don't get something right away. They need time to grow and learn and you will be rewarded later if you keep your cool and stay consistent with them.
Posted on 7/16/16 at 11:57 am to Rover Range
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Husband - Dying to myself before dying to my spouse (emotionally/spiritually/Wants and needs)
I think so many more marriages could be saved if husbands focused on how to put their wives first and wives focused on how to put their husband's first. I know I am guilty many times of only focusing on what need I need met and may overlook that maybe, just maybe, my husband may have a more pressing need that takes priority.
Reading your post reminded me of all that. Thanks
This post was edited on 7/16/16 at 11:59 am
Posted on 7/16/16 at 12:09 pm to lsunurse
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I think so many more marriages could be saved if husbands focused on how to put their wives first and wives focused on how to put their husband's first. I know I am guilty many times of only focusing on what need I need met and may overlook that maybe, just maybe, my husband may have a more pressing need that takes priority.
I almost lost my marriage because i thought my wife had problems i couldn’t handle. After reading the book, Manhood Restored, i realized a lot of our problems, while they were her fault at the time, stemmed from years of me not setting her up for success, spiritually or emotionally. Money and nice things was not only not the answer, it was some of the problem.
Shortly after i realized these truths, i fixed me, my wife responded accordingly, and God blessed us with a pregnancy after 7 years of trying
Posted on 7/16/16 at 12:22 pm to DEG
Attitude is everything. Perspective is another big part. It took my dad dying for me to change my perspective on life. Everyday is a gift and should be treated as such. And always tell the people you love, that you love them.
Posted on 7/16/16 at 12:30 pm to DEG
Husband - Empathy
Father - Patience
Employee - Fight complacency
Friend- Availability
Father - Patience
Employee - Fight complacency
Friend- Availability
Posted on 7/16/16 at 12:43 pm to DEG
I would have to like people more
Posted on 7/16/16 at 1:10 pm to heatom2
Great responses. I love learning through the experiences and insights of others. Thank you. Even got a book or two out of it.
For those who are giving me advice, I appreciate it but I wanted to hear your perspective and personal reflections, not your advice.
The religious points of view were interesting. While I certainly lean toward the agnostic end of the perspective, I appreciate the points of view.
At 41 I'm more at peace than any point in my life, in part because I try to maintain high standards in every aspect. But, I'm human and can do better.
I'll try to:
Husband: selflessly encourage the things my wife is passionate about
Father: stop and think before overreacting. Encourage often and maintain high standards. I'm raising the future fathers of my grandkids after all.
Work: listen first, speak second, learn something new everyday and add shitloads of value. Working extra hours has never been a response that made sense to me. The opportunity costs are too great.
Friends: this is my weakest spot. I'm not available and don't have social stamina. I'm a home body and that leaves me detached at times. That has to change.
Peace!
For those who are giving me advice, I appreciate it but I wanted to hear your perspective and personal reflections, not your advice.
The religious points of view were interesting. While I certainly lean toward the agnostic end of the perspective, I appreciate the points of view.
At 41 I'm more at peace than any point in my life, in part because I try to maintain high standards in every aspect. But, I'm human and can do better.
I'll try to:
Husband: selflessly encourage the things my wife is passionate about
Father: stop and think before overreacting. Encourage often and maintain high standards. I'm raising the future fathers of my grandkids after all.
Work: listen first, speak second, learn something new everyday and add shitloads of value. Working extra hours has never been a response that made sense to me. The opportunity costs are too great.
Friends: this is my weakest spot. I'm not available and don't have social stamina. I'm a home body and that leaves me detached at times. That has to change.
Peace!
Posted on 7/16/16 at 2:21 pm to DEG
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Serious self improvement question
What behaviors would you need to change in order to raise your game as a: Husband, Father, Employee, Friend
Specific behaviors depend on you. One man might need to stop being so married to his job and be more engaged and attentive when with his wife, children & friends. Another may need to be more assertive and not coddle those around him. So, the first thing you need to do is list what you think you do well, what you think you don't do so well and lay out priorities of the most important thing you need to change.
Next, you need to be willing to give something up. This is the part that causes people to fail to change. People generally expect they'll be able to change something in their lives and on the back end they'll still be themselves... only better. But it doesn't work that way. How could you, for instance, become a faithful husband if you insist on dating other women as you did as a young man... This is an extreme example, but there is a principle at play here.
Your day is completely filled with routines and behaviors that serve a purpose (mostly to your ego). Even bad habits satisfy your ego in some way. Whatever you decide you want to change is going to find resistance in a pre-existing habit or behavior that will have to die to make room for the new behavior you want. The old behavior will fight because it's self-serving to your ego... or, the part of the ego it serves will seek to re-assert itself in another way. This is the condition that Rover Range is pointing to when he says he suggests improving as a husband by "dying to myself before dying to my spouse". You cannot serve two masters, and if you aren't willing to root out the behaviors and the part of the ego behind behaviors at odds with the change you want to make, you won't succeed. Or, you'll only superficially succeed, but will end up having a hidden side, like the politician or pastor who rails against sin, then hires prostitutes. To succeed you must be willing to kill some parts of yourself and understand that the result is you're not quite going to be the same person you were before.
There's an old Zen story (I think there's numerous versions) in which a professor visits some master in order to learn. Upon meeting, the master pours tea for his visitor. The cup fills, then overflows; yet the master continues pouring tea into the cup, which continues to spill all over the table. Finally, the guest can't stand it and exclaims, "Stop! The cup is full. No more will go in!". The master replies, "Like this cup, you are full of your own opinions. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?" ... In Christian parlance, consider Jesus' parable of the sower... the Zen story is like the seed sown on stony ground, which might sprout quickly but cannot grow roots and dies. In other words, if you want to change (however big or small that change may be), you have to empty your cup; you have to uproot and kill that part of you (in ego) that would prevent the change you desire from taking root. Only then can you internally change.
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