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re: Low Fat Diet Is Allegedly Wrong According to Report
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:59 pm to guedeaux
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:59 pm to guedeaux
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Why don't you explain the thermodynamics of digestion and metabolism? You sure like to use the word "thermodynamics" when talking about nutrition, but I have never seen you explain it (I may have missed it).
Further, can you explain how the calorie, which is the amount of energy required to raise one gram of water one degree celsius (food calories are kcal), fits into energy production, storage, and expenditure of the human body?
K, thx, l8r
i dunno if rocket can explain this or not, I can as I do have an engineering degree, but I won't explain it in the detail you are asking for.
simply put in the terms of weight loss and weight gain, we are referring to the first law of thermo. Simply if we consume an energy source it cant be destroyed only stored or used and that to lose weight you must burn more energy than you consume.
this isn't 100% though as not all calories are EXACTLY the same. I.E. some calories, like those from protein, take more energy to process than others from something like carbs.
But again in the grand scheme of things the amount you are burning extra is so minuscule that the normal non competitive bodybuilder does not need to or have to worry about it.bottom line is calories in vs calories out works everytime, might take a while to figure out TDEE, but it always works.
People who says calories in vs calories out don't work are lying to themselves about what and how much they are eating.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 3:12 pm to lsu777
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simply put in the terms of weight loss and weight gain, we are referring to the first law of thermo. Simply if we consume an energy source it cant be destroyed only stored or used and that to lose weight you must burn more energy than you consume.
So, no, you can not explain it in reference to metabolism and digestion.
A calorie is a terrible measure of energy in a biological setting. The amount of "energy" in a food source does not equate to the amount of energy that the body will utilize from that source. The body digests foods differently (and each person's body will digest food differently based on your previous eating habits and exercise level, but that is too complex for this discussion).
For instance, insoluble fiber "has" calories but your body will not use any of those calories. Thus, "calories in" has 0 effect on energy use by the body. Similarly, equal "calories" of simple carbs and complex carbs will have different energy effects: simple carbs will use almost no energy to become usable energy while complex carbs require digestion (which uses energy) to become usable energy.
Also, the effects of what you eat will change the physiology of our bodies. Some foods at 100 calories will trigger your body to produce fat while an equivalent amount of calories of a different food source can instruct your body to burn fat.
These are just simple examples which convey the point that calories are not equal and the "laws of metabolic thermodynamics" are a lot more complex than the first law of thermodynamics.
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:56 pm to lsu777
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People who says calories in vs calories out don't work are lying to themselves about what and how much they are eating.
Calories in, calories out is basically pseudoscience at this point. On the most basic level, with nothing in context, it makes sense.The problem is that not all calories sources are the same and the way the body metabolizes food sources changes depending on the source. The body simply cannot efficiently process high levels of sugar. That's why low fat, high sugar foods lead to obesity regardless of caloric content and why America got ridiculously fat since the low fat guidelines from the FDA in the 1970s
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