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re: George Zimmerman to auction off gun used to kill Treyvon Martin
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:29 pm to Clames
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:29 pm to Clames
quote:Yes there was physical evidence that he beat the shite out of Zimmerman, but there is no way to tell that Zimmerman didn't engage the physical contact with Treyvon first. All we know is that he says he didn't. If he did start the altercation, and I'm sure he did, he is responsible and is in fact a murder.
I'm talking about the physical evidence. You know, the shite you and other idiots can't spin with your fanciful imaginations.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:36 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Yes there was physical evidence that he beat the shite out of Zimmerman
Good. You accept this. I like the progress.
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but there is no way to tell that Zimmerman didn't engage the physical contact with Treyvon first.
You're right, but of course there is no evidence he initiated such contact.
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All we know is that he says he didn't.
AND, this is supported by at least absence of evidence to the contrary.
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If he did start the altercation
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he is responsible and is in fact a murder.
Meh. He is at least guilty of manslaughter.
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and I'm sure he did
And this is what? A "hunch"? "Instinct"? "Sixth sense"? Because there is no reliable evidence to support this.
Occam's Razor lays this out quickly - there is no question that Zimmerman was following Martin. He called 911 to report what he thought was suspicious behavior. He followed him as a concerned citizen (or busybody, depending on how you view it).
At some point, there was a verbal exchange. The way I believe it happened was more or less:
TM - "Dude? Why are you following me? Do you have a problem?"
GZ - "No. I don't have a problem."
TM - "Well, now you do." *PUNCHINTHEFACE*
Then it was most definitely on.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:38 pm to MontyFranklyn
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but there is no way to tell that Zimmerman didn't engage the physical contact with Treyvon first
There is one crucial gap in the timeline that necessitates an inference, who initiated the physical altercation. That Zimmerman was getting his arse kicked means little to me. Plenty of people start a fight then get their arse whipped.
I'm not sure of anything, but would not need very much convincing to believe Zimmerman initiated it. I'm willing to bet that if the jurors knew then what they know now about him, they would've convicted him.
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