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re: So. I'll just leave this here RE: Captain America:Civil War

Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:42 am to
Posted by FranMully
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:42 am to
Civil War is meh and BvS is bad. I don't really understand Stark's position whatsoever in this argument between him and Cap. You saved the entire world and some casualties happened. Having a bureaucracy decide when to use the Avengers is stupid.

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The biggest problem with these movies is that there are no stakes whatsoever. At no point do you think any of the characters will die. It was even obvious that Don Cheadle would be fine. Nobody dies and everyone is friends at the end. These movies are so predictable. Marvel needs to actually do something different for once and at stakes to the story
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110116 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:46 am to
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I don't really understand Stark's position whatsoever in this argument between him and Cap.


Tony Stark had no oversight and unleashed Ultron upon the world who almost caused the Apocalypse. You really don't understand his point? I actually do side more with his point than Captain America's (or at least his team, since I understand that Cap was trying to save Bucky more than anything).
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:18 am to
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The biggest problem with these movies is that there are no stakes whatsoever. At no point do you think any of the characters will die.


Exactly. What kind of a war that has no casualties? Pretty safe war to me. Even Zemo was saved by the man who was trying to get him earlier in the movie.


No fear of death = Nothing to risk = Nothing to cherish.

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These movies are so predictable. Marvel needs to actually do something different for once and at stakes to the story


Would've been awesome if War Machine died and Bucky gets put down at the end. So next movie, anyone can die. Jeez, take a page out of Game of Thrones.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35255 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:34 am to
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I don't really understand Stark's position whatsoever in this argument between him and Cap. Y
Well Stark's reasoning is not that much different than the reasoning people use to justify government intrusion and oversight in reality. It switches responsibility/accountability to some other entity.

Rather than Tony looking within to see that he caused the problem, and he needs to change his own ways, he would rather give the responsibility to the nanny state.
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The biggest problem with these movies is that there are no stakes whatsoever.
Well the whole point of CW was not to put their lives at stake. It was meant to put their ideals, beliefs, and group cohesion at stake.

I think that in the upcoming Avengers films with Thanos as villain, there will be much more at stake, and the decisions made in this film will have direct consequences related to that.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 10:39 am
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