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re: Weather forecasts and statistics
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:32 am to KG6
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:32 am to KG6
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What does this "40 percent" mean? ...will it rain 40 percent of of the time? ...will it rain over 40 percent of the area?
The "Probability of Precipitation" (PoP) describes the chance of precipitation occurring at any point you select in the area.
How do forecasters arrive at this value?
Mathematically, PoP is defined as follows:
PoP = C x A where "C" = the confidence that precipitation will occur somewhere in the forecast area, and where "A" = the percent of the area that will receive measureable precipitation, if it occurs at all.
So... in the case of the forecast above, if the forecaster knows precipitation is sure to occur ( confidence is 100% ), he/she is expressing how much of the area will receive measurable rain. ( PoP = "C" x "A" or "1" times ".4" which equals .4 or 40%.)
But, most of the time, the forecaster is expressing a combination of degree of confidence and areal coverage. If the forecaster is only 50% sure that precipitation will occur, and expects that, if it does occur, it will produce measurable rain over about 80 percent of the area, the PoP (chance of rain) is 40%. ( PoP = .5 x .8 which equals .4 or 40%. )
In either event, the correct way to interpret the forecast is: there is a 40 percent chance that rain will occur at any given point in the area.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:38 am to mylsuhat
So to say 100% would mean that the forecaster has 100% confidence that it will rain in 100% of the area? and conversely for 0%
If a guy tells me 90%, then moves it to 50%, I've got no issue with that at all. New data is going to allow you to adjust your confidence levels. But, when you get into the two points I mentioned, you better plan to never move them in my opinion. Because you've stated that without any room for doubt, your forecast will happen.
If a guy tells me 90%, then moves it to 50%, I've got no issue with that at all. New data is going to allow you to adjust your confidence levels. But, when you get into the two points I mentioned, you better plan to never move them in my opinion. Because you've stated that without any room for doubt, your forecast will happen.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:40 am to mylsuhat
quote:
What does this "40 percent" mean? ...will it rain 40 percent of of the time? ...will it rain over 40 percent of the area?
The "Probability of Precipitation" (PoP) describes the chance of precipitation occurring at any point you select in the area.
How do forecasters arrive at this value?
Mathematically, PoP is defined as follows:
PoP = C x A where "C" = the confidence that precipitation will occur somewhere in the forecast area, and where "A" = the percent of the area that will receive measureable precipitation, if it occurs at all.
So... in the case of the forecast above, if the forecaster knows precipitation is sure to occur ( confidence is 100% ), he/she is expressing how much of the area will receive measurable rain. ( PoP = "C" x "A" or "1" times ".4" which equals .4 or 40%.)
But, most of the time, the forecaster is expressing a combination of degree of confidence and areal coverage. If the forecaster is only 50% sure that precipitation will occur, and expects that, if it does occur, it will produce measurable rain over about 80 percent of the area, the PoP (chance of rain) is 40%. ( PoP = .5 x .8 which equals .4 or 40%. )
In either event, the correct way to interpret the forecast is: there is a 40 percent chance that rain will occur at any given point in the area.
Thanks for posting this. Should help with a lot of the misconceptions.
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