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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II
Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:23 am to The Estimator
Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:23 am to The Estimator
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The Estimator
Spot on. I've been playing around with my NEIPA because i don't care for the overly chewy ones. I find many, including some Parish NEIPA's, are so chewy they mute the hops. So, for my liking, i usually do a 1:1 ratio. I typically use London Ale 3, but i've worked with several varieties. I think my favorite, so far, is bootleg biology's chardonnay yeast. LINK
I try to mash around 150-152. I want my FG to be 1.016-1.018. I find that the process of adding the biotrans hops tends to prevent the yeast from fully attenuating, and anything above 152, leaves me with too high of a FG for my liking.
And to the adjunct grain content, i've been reducing this amount to anywhere from 5 to 9% of the grist. I think i started at 15% when i first started, but again, i don't care for an overly full mouthfeel. I find if the beer is slightly thinner, you will get more fruity flavors out of it.
Here's my NEIPA recipe.
The Hopnotoad
1:1 chloride/sulfate ratio with Baton Rouge water to start
65% - 2 row
27% - Golden Promise
5% - Flaked Oats
3% - Carafoam/carapils
Mash at 152 for 1 hour
London Ale 3 or other yeast with starter. I've read that WLP644 Sach Brux Trois, does really well with accentuating the fruitiness. Also helps that the fermenting temp for WLP644 is 70-85, so higher temps, more fruit.
Hops variety can be interchangeable. My favorite combo has been galaxy/citra/azacca. Though my last batch, i ran out of galaxy and substituted Mosaic.
30 IBU charge of boil hops (Magnum)
4.75 oz. of Whirlpool hops at 170 degrees
3.75 oz. of biotrans hops (14 days)
3.5 oz. of dry hops @ 7 days
3 oz. dry hops at 3 days
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 9:24 am
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:19 am to BugAC
All great stuff.
I made my first Brut a couple months ago and used a 1:1 ratio. Lalvin EC-1118 Yeast in the secondary with some macerated white table grapes. Ekuanot Cryo Hops and regular Nelson used during biotransformation with Nelson and Hallertau Blanc in whirlpool. Came out great.
Man, I’m with you on the overly sweet ones. It feels like all the commercial ones are either getting sweeter or my palate is shifting to the drier side. Alex over at Miel has a Brut Pale he just made that is ridiculously crushable (4 pints in about 1.5 hours crushable ). In contrast, I can’t have more than 1 pint of all the local NEIPA’s now. Urban South’s LA Brut is one of my favorite beers I’ve had in a long time because you can tell it’s pretty much just Holy Roller with the amyloglucosidase (or any of the other enzymes) and a higher attenuating yeast. So much more drinkable.
I think that the NEIPA will obviously be a lasting style but I think it’s demand is going to transition to the drier Brut style dry-hopped Pales/IPAs. They’re also ridiculously more cost effective because with the lower FG added to a higher Sulfate ratio, you can use like half the hops of a NEIPA.
Once we throw the Kveik yeasts into the party, we’re going to get some cheap, easy, and delicious hoppy beers coming out in 2019.
I made my first Brut a couple months ago and used a 1:1 ratio. Lalvin EC-1118 Yeast in the secondary with some macerated white table grapes. Ekuanot Cryo Hops and regular Nelson used during biotransformation with Nelson and Hallertau Blanc in whirlpool. Came out great.
Man, I’m with you on the overly sweet ones. It feels like all the commercial ones are either getting sweeter or my palate is shifting to the drier side. Alex over at Miel has a Brut Pale he just made that is ridiculously crushable (4 pints in about 1.5 hours crushable ). In contrast, I can’t have more than 1 pint of all the local NEIPA’s now. Urban South’s LA Brut is one of my favorite beers I’ve had in a long time because you can tell it’s pretty much just Holy Roller with the amyloglucosidase (or any of the other enzymes) and a higher attenuating yeast. So much more drinkable.
I think that the NEIPA will obviously be a lasting style but I think it’s demand is going to transition to the drier Brut style dry-hopped Pales/IPAs. They’re also ridiculously more cost effective because with the lower FG added to a higher Sulfate ratio, you can use like half the hops of a NEIPA.
Once we throw the Kveik yeasts into the party, we’re going to get some cheap, easy, and delicious hoppy beers coming out in 2019.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:08 pm to BugAC
I shot you an email.
one cretique ill give on your recipe is that i hate having dry hops on the beer for longer than 7-10 days. I have seen that once kegged, the beer has a grassy taste that clears up after about a week from being in the keg, and the debris in the kegs cleaned out.
So what i have done is bio trans once fermentation starts. then a large dry hop after fermentation ceases. larger amount for a shorter ammount of time. I can get a Neipa out in 10-12 days easily now.
one cretique ill give on your recipe is that i hate having dry hops on the beer for longer than 7-10 days. I have seen that once kegged, the beer has a grassy taste that clears up after about a week from being in the keg, and the debris in the kegs cleaned out.
So what i have done is bio trans once fermentation starts. then a large dry hop after fermentation ceases. larger amount for a shorter ammount of time. I can get a Neipa out in 10-12 days easily now.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 12:56 pm to BugAC
Thanks guys. I’m just getting back into this and it’s great that y’all are so helpful. I’ve only done extract brews. I may start with an extract brew so I can get familiar with the yeast and biotransformation/dry hopping.
But I would like to transition to all grain brewing. Do yall have any recommendations for good setups that don’t take up too much space or break the bank?
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 12:57 pm
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