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re: Obtuse Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice TD review thread (SPOILERS p5+)
Posted on 3/25/16 at 11:40 am to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 3/25/16 at 11:40 am to Fewer Kilometers
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I can't believe you people are stuck on this.
Why was Martha Kent working at a job? What led to this? Why didn't we get a Martha Kent movie showing us the progression?
Wayne Manor is in ruins. It's shorthand for "time has moved on and Batman has had a tough life".
Ok...let's take a step back for a second, because I'm genuinely curious as to your take on this whole idea.
If the idea with MoS was to evetually bring together everyone into the Justice League to then compete with Marvel's MCU, can you explain the rationale of having a middle aged Batman whose had a tough life and is now killing random thugs? I get that it can be argued that such a universe COULD exist given such and such...but what's the point of having THAT be the starting point for DC here? It doesn't have to be Year One Batman, but wouldn't you want a Batman in Clark's age bracket? One with an actual Wayne Manor? In short...all those things people already associate with the JL Bats?
Even way back when the idea of mirroring Dark Knight Returns with a middle aged Bats I was hesitant for this very reason. Not that I don't like THAT story, but that it seems like an arse backwards place to start...does it not?
This entire thing could not have been simpler, and yet whoever is to blame (DC, WB, Snyder, Goyer, Geoff Johns, etc) seem hellbent on making a cakewalk a death march...all for the sake of, I don't know...being different?
Posted on 3/25/16 at 12:00 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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If the idea with MoS was to evetually bring together everyone into the Justice League to then compete with Marvel's MCU, can you explain the rationale of having a middle aged Batman whose had a tough life and is now killing random thugs?
He's not killing random thugs. From what I saw he was blowing up vehicles and people while on missions.
I would think that their reasoning for using the older Batman is the same reason that they used the name Dark Knight in movies and have Superman and Batman fighting in the first place. They think that Frank Miller's Batman comics are the best selling and most famous versions, so they're latching onto them wherever they can. They wanted to match their Man of Steel Superman against the Dark Knight Returns Batman.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 12:38 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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If the idea with MoS was to evetually bring together everyone into the Justice League to then compete with Marvel's MCU, can you explain the rationale of having a middle aged Batman whose had a tough life and is now killing random thugs? I get that it can be argued that such a universe COULD exist given such and such...but what's the point of having THAT be the starting point for DC here?
This was my point/gripe from an earlier post. I get WHY they turned Batman into a killer given the story-line they are obviously going with. I don't agree with it, at all. But I at least see the rationale.
The bigger issue is that rationale does not fit with the timeline they are setting up AT ALL. It's dumb.
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