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re: IMO Brandon Harris isn't bad

Posted on 3/6/16 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 8:38 pm to
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Brandon Harris tied for 2nd place all time for passing attempts in the OM game, at 51 attempts. The whole premise of your argument is that we shut down passing, and we threw more times than we had in 16 years.

In the arkansas game, it was 35 times. I don't have the complete stats available to verify, but an average of 43 times per game appears to be the most ever attempted by an LSU Tiger in a 2 game stretch. Rohan Davey had 44 and 43 in one season, but weren't consecutive, and would only be .5 attempts over.

LSU was down 21-0 to Arkansas and 24-0 to Ole miss which led to a large amount of pass attempts. Not due to the fact that Lsu was handing the ball to Brandon Harris and unleashing him. Hardly a great situation for success.
Posted by marcnbc
Bossier City, LA
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 8:59 pm to
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LSU was down 21-0 to Arkansas and 24-0 to Ole miss which led to a large amount of pass attempts. Not due to the fact that Lsu was handing the ball to Brandon Harris and unleashing him. Hardly a great situation for success.


Was about to post the same thing. When you're getting run out of the stadium very early in the game, we had to abort the running game and just start chunking the ball around just to play catchup. We did good to cut the lead to 7 against Arky and then gave up a long KO return that led to a FG and the lead was double digits once again.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 12:13 am to
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LSU was down 21-0 to Arkansas and 24-0 to Ole miss which led to a large amount of pass attempts. Not due to the fact that Lsu was handing the ball to Brandon Harris and unleashing him. Hardly a great situation for success
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Well it certainly was a great situation for getting reps i.e. Not get shut down as was stated as the original premise of the thread.

Say what you want about Harris, but don't say he wasn't successful because of lack of opportunity toward the end of the season, because it just isn't true.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:01 am to
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LSU was down 21-0 to Arkansas and 24-0 to Ole miss which led to a large amount of pass attempts.


By the time those scores were on the board:

Arkansas: LSU dropped back to pass 10 of the first 23 plays, including 3 sacks, 2 timeouts, and not including 2 rushes. So he either attempted a rush or a pass in 12/23 plays to start the game. Fournette had 46 yards rushing at this point. Further, 5/6 plays to begin the game were drop backs. Harris also fumbled the ball inside the LSU 20 which lead to the 3rd arky TD.

Ole Miss: Started game with an incomplete pass after a first down, and delay of game on 3rd and 6. Next drive, we turn the ball over trying to convert 3rd and 2 on a rush. Next drive, same thing but 3rd and 3. We are down 10-0 at this point. Long drive by OM, 17-0. Next drive, interception inside LSU 20, and the game is over. We were down by 14 with 7:30 left in the third. That is plenty of time to win the game. It was the Harris show from there on out, and we didn't score again.

Please don't mistake what I am saying. I am not trying to dog on Harris, I really like him and think he has a lot of potential. I am simply saying that he was certainly not shut down in either of those games, and was given a legitimate opportunity to win each game for us.

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