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re: Apple already unlocked 70 other iPhones for feds

Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:59 am to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:59 am to
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The link above says Apple is being asked to help bypass a potential auto-erase application that would allow the FBI to hack the login screen with brute force attempts. That seems to be a far cry from installing a backdoor on the iOS of all phones out of the box, no?


So let's assume Apple plays along and gives this capability to the FBI. What's to keep them from using this programming on other iphones that weren't in San Bernardino? You think they would get a warrant every time? Or leaking out this programming to hackers to use- our fedgov has a terrible track record of keeping things secure from hackers. Then you have a massive security breach for every iPhone. Lastly, even with this programming, whats to keep third party encryption software from ending up on jailbroken phones? Even with the backdoor, you can still install locally encrypted software that sends encrypted messages that doesn't involve imessage.

The hackers and terrorists won't be affected by this nearly as much as the innocent retail customers. If Apple plays along they have an inherently less secure phone.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:01 am to
does anyone REALLLLLY believe there is a truly uncrackable/perfect product?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85498 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:14 am to
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If Apple plays along they have an inherently less secure phone.


I think you're missing the point of the article.

Either Apple can or cannot remove the auto-erase function on the phone. If they can, then the "backdoor" already exists and the FBI is asking Apple to help them find it. If they cannot, then there is nothing that can be done and Apple should come out and say so.

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This case is not about a backdoor, however. Instead it is about access to data on an existing phone, which like many recent cellphones, encrypts the data on the phone itself in a way that, as Tim Cook described back in September of 2014, prevents even Apple from retrieving the data.


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We do not know whether it is possible to bypass these mechanisms. Apple has responded that it is being asked to "create something too dangerous to create. They have asked us to build a backdoor to the iPhone." That response is not technically correct. For it to be a backdoor, Apple would have to add it to phones that are shipped, and as I discussed earlier, I agree that we should not be adding a backdoor to our devices.


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If such a flaw exists, then the flaw will inevitably be discovered by the hacker community, or foreign governments down the road. Hiding the flaw does not necessarily improve the security of their customers, but creating the "exploit kit" does expose customers to a greater risk of attack in the short term.


This guy is basically saying that if it can be done, Apple should do it now while simultaneously fixing it so it cannot be done going forward. If it cannot be done, then Apple has nothing to worry about.
Posted by TexasTiger39
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:23 am to
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