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re: Monument Litigation (For OT Lawyers)

Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:23 pm to
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:23 pm to
quote:

Do the plaintiffs even have standing?


Want to know how I know you're a 1L?
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24791 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:23 pm to
I think not ... Trying to claim that the statues are part of the street car line is a stretch, imho ...

I also think the public hearings were handled fairly and don't see merit in that argument ..

I do think that the city will be forced to name the private citizens that are paying for this removal.
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 11:27 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142951 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

The original Penn Station began demolition in 1963
Good

fricking place was highly offensive

Posted by ajs008
Denver, CO
Member since Feb 2007
657 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:31 pm to
Just stating it wasn't protected under the 1966 act like Rex stated it was. Went to the little historical gallery in Grand Central regarding Penn. That place was a marvel.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142951 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:35 pm to
quote:

Just stating it wasn't protected under the 1966 act like Rex stated it was
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24791 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:37 pm to
But that act does not give protection by law.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117764 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:40 pm to
There will be several years of this being held up in court.

In the end, not one comes down. They're too important to the rich history, and culture, our city has.

When Obama and Mitch are gone, this will be a non issue.
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

When Obama and Mitch are gone, this will be a non issue


Because neither of these will be replaced by more heinous individuals?

Sorry, but the decline of New Orleans and this country is real.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

Because it has been offensive since the mid 80s





That was the first movement to have the statues removed
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:57 pm to
quote:

I also think the public hearings were handled fairly and don't see merit in that argument ..



They meet the criteria, but were a kangaroo court. The decisions were made before the hearings.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17439 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:59 pm to
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That was the first movement to have the statues removed


So?


I got one... I FIND MLK STATUES AND STREET NAMES OFFENSIVE.

There ya go. Officially documented in 2015.
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24791 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:01 am to
I agree they had some whackos that wanted their voices heard ... But the council gave both sides equal treatment and really handled the hearings very well ... Don't think a court will use that argument to stop them fromcing down
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:03 am to
I don't think it will be a reason either. The council didn't care what the public had to say though.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:03 am to
quote:

I got one... I FIND MLK STATUES AND STREET NAMES OFFENSIVE.

There ya go. Officially documented in 2015.


Why are they offensive to you?

Also, is there a MLK statue? Never looked for one.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 12:05 am
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142951 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:18 am to
quote:

Why are they offensive to you?
I oppose plagiarism -- that is, theft -- and academic cheating
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8630 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:27 am to
Barbier is not going to let this linger for years on his docket.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 12:28 am
Posted by Brightside Bengal
Old Metairie
Member since Sep 2007
3884 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:30 am to
My understanding is that there is a Federal law protecting monuments to US Servicemen (Lee, Davis, and Beauregard are all veterans of the Mexican American war, and fully reinstated of their veteran status.)

There was a military officer at one of the Debates that presented the city Council with a copy of this federal law. Does anyone have any insight into the strength of this part of the suit?
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24791 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:33 am to
My understanding is that is not even part of the lawsuit ..

They are not protected under federal law .. The two arguments in the law suit is that the statues are part of the street car line thus get federal funding and can't be removed and that both sides were not treated equally during the public hearings
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 12:35 am
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117764 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 7:58 am to
In other words, they're staying.

It's like they say about threads for golf, lifting weights, and smoking ciggs on the OT: If you don't like them, don't click on them.

If you don't like these statues of American heroes, that stood up to an oppressive Federal government, don't look at them.

Pretty simple fix, and it doesn't cost a thing.
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24791 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 8:00 am to
Sad to say that the Statues will go the way of the golf threads very soon.
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