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re: "The Worst Rule in Football" still needs to be changed.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 5:54 pm to ballscaster
Posted on 10/6/15 at 5:54 pm to ballscaster
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Well it's been explained to you about five times, so you qualify as a dumb arse as far as this thread is concerned.
Look, I get where you're coming from. The stakes are high at the goal line, fumbles should be punished, a touchback is a touchback is a touchback. Great. Now you need to see where I'm coming from. The defense should have to earn a turnover. Knocking the ball loose is not sufficient. The hard part is recovering the ball. The fumble touchback rule is so dumb that there must exist ANOTHER rule to accompany it to prevent players from intentionally knocking the ball out of bounds, which is the instinctual thing to do when the rule says if the ball goes out of bounds it belongs to you. So why, oh why, do we have a rule on top of another rule to force players to compete in the spirit of the game, instead of using common sense to say "you know what? let's just be consistent with fumbles and require the defense to recover the ball in the endzone for a turnover, and as a bonus we remain consistent as far as not being able to advance the ball via fumble."
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 6:27 pm to Korkstand
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I get where you're coming from
quote:Which is it?
it doesn't make sense.
quote:Not where I'm coming from. Possession of the ball is neither good nor bad. It is only possession. This isn't some moral argument. It is purely pragmatic.
fumbles should be punished
quote:No it shouldn't.
The defense should have to earn a turnover.
quote:Sometimes it is. Not only that, but sometimes sitting on your arse and watching the offense fumble it is sufficient.
Knocking the ball loose is not sufficient.
Granting the fumbling team with another chance at possession, which is what you would like to see, inherently makes no more or less sense than giving the ball to the opposing team. So, we have to decide possession some how or 'nother. Where did the ball go out of bounds? Team A's end zone. Therefore, Team A possesses the ball.
In this game of land acquisition, if Team B advances the ball to the 50 and fumbles it out of bounds, we more or less give it back to them for the next down (unless they've now turned it over on downs) because they fumbled it in the land that they have acquired.
If Team B fumbles it into Team A's end zone, which, because they did not advance or possess the ball past the goal line, they have not acquired, then Team B definitively possesses the ball since it has been downed in their end zone.
You are proposing that we take the ball away from Team A because of how much of a bummer it is that Team B almost scored a touchdown. Forgive me for being abrasive here, but that's just dumb.
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