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re: Dad Writes Gag Check to Son's Elementary School Using Common Core Math
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:17 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:17 pm to LSUFanHouston
Jesus, fella! You are drowning in strawmen. I'm responding to YOUR COMMENT about federal takeover, not some imagined paranoia you have assigned to me.
I'm not suggesting there is an imminent takeover of schools afoot, nor have I said as much. I only believe that federal standards baked into CC can be a means to that end if we are not careful - which is the real issue many people have with the standards.
And as for private schools in Lousiana that receive public educations funds, they most certainly are subject to the government oversight tied to those funds. This is the case with my children's school which is the only reason we are teaching the methods of CC in the first place.
I'm not suggesting there is an imminent takeover of schools afoot, nor have I said as much. I only believe that federal standards baked into CC can be a means to that end if we are not careful - which is the real issue many people have with the standards.
And as for private schools in Lousiana that receive public educations funds, they most certainly are subject to the government oversight tied to those funds. This is the case with my children's school which is the only reason we are teaching the methods of CC in the first place.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:27 pm to Vacherie Saint
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I'm responding to YOUR COMMENT about federal takeover
Not quite.
Your comments on this thread include:
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Most people don't like CC because it's just another step toward the de localization of education, not because it shows kids a different way to learn.
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What do you do as a parent when the school standards, cirriculum, and teaching methods are all dictated by the federal government, cause that is where this ride end
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I'm responding to your comment that we should just hand education over to the feds because Lousiana sucks. I'm not ready to toss the keys over to the same idiots that run Amtrack and the Postal Service. There IS no turning back from federal control of schools and we are already throwing $9K per student down a black hole in the current public school system with no end in sight
If that's not implying that a federal takeover is imminent in this world of CC, then I don't know what to say.
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And as for private schools in Lousiana that receive public educations funds, they most certainly are subject to the government oversight tied to those funds. This is the case with my children's school which is the only reason we are teaching the methods of CC in the first place
Your private school could always turn down the small amount of money it gets for textbooks. If avoiding CC was that important to your school.
However, I actually had a conversation with a friend who is principal at a local Catholic school - who told me that it's almost impossible to find math workbooks at this point that are not aligned to CC, and the same with math and english textbooks. So he said as these textbooks become unusuable over time, they will have to move to CC.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:44 pm to Vacherie Saint
Ok, here's the deal... Common Core was not developed by nor administered by the Federal Government. It was developed by a consortium of 31 states, most of which are Red states. Period! It's not a federal program in any way, shape or form. To say otherwise in an outright lie.
The Federal Government did make grant money available to help cover the cost of implementation at the state level, but it wasn't enough money to cover the full cost, so it's ludicrous to think that states were "bribed" by and are now beholden to the Fed because of Common Core. Again, the Federal Government played ZERO role in the development of the standards. There is ZERO Federal mandate that dictates how schools teach to the standards.
Now, as far as Private Schools go, the arch diocese of New Orleans has far and away been the gold standard for education in Lousisana for Decades opted to adopt Common Core standards and aligned curriculum without a single dollar from the Fed for implementation. They did is solely because they felt the standards and techniques had merit. That is straight from the director of the Diocese of Houma-Thibodaux's mouth. You can call her yourself if you're polite, she'll spend all the time you want discussing the topic.
The notion that Common Core is a Federal takeover of education is a complete fallacy, and if it's your opposition, then get over it. It's not real.
The Federal Government did make grant money available to help cover the cost of implementation at the state level, but it wasn't enough money to cover the full cost, so it's ludicrous to think that states were "bribed" by and are now beholden to the Fed because of Common Core. Again, the Federal Government played ZERO role in the development of the standards. There is ZERO Federal mandate that dictates how schools teach to the standards.
Now, as far as Private Schools go, the arch diocese of New Orleans has far and away been the gold standard for education in Lousisana for Decades opted to adopt Common Core standards and aligned curriculum without a single dollar from the Fed for implementation. They did is solely because they felt the standards and techniques had merit. That is straight from the director of the Diocese of Houma-Thibodaux's mouth. You can call her yourself if you're polite, she'll spend all the time you want discussing the topic.
The notion that Common Core is a Federal takeover of education is a complete fallacy, and if it's your opposition, then get over it. It's not real.
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