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re: Need Advice From Musicians - Training Your Ear

Posted on 8/7/15 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 6:53 pm to
If you apologized for a wall of text, there's no telling what I'll have to do when this is done.

First off, I'm not "there". But I think I know what you're describing. I've been around several guitar players who "play a song they've never heard" for the first time on stage, or if you ask them "do you know ???", they say something like "i've never learned it, but I'd imagine it's about like :commence to start playing the song damn near perfectly:"

Man, I don't think I'll ever be that good. I'm just getting close to being out of the "non suck" stage. So, what I'll do is give you the tips that helped me at least get past walls, or take what was, for me, big leaps, such that I didn't bog down. Pretty sure I've put these on here before - if you've suffered through these before, please forgive me.

The first one is this. Play "with" the band. Crank your stereo up such that you're sitting in w/them. That'll do a couple of things. First of all, your guitar WILL be in tune. If it's not, they'll kick you out of the band (actually, you'll kick yourself out, tune your guitar, and come back). Secondly, you'll immediately know if the player is using some "trick". Nowadays, you can google anything. Back in the day - pre computers and google - I cannot tell you how frustrating it was to try and try and try to learn a song, and not be able to even get close. One song that comes to mind is Van Halen/Beautiful Girls. Know that song? Doesn't sound particularly tough, right? That jangley little opening bit? Try learning that BEFORE you could google the fact that it's played a half step down in tuning? shite'll run you freakin nuts bro. Third thing it'll do - and I swear, I don't believe in holy medicine, spooky shite, and the like, but you'll kinda "get the groove". You're standing there, hearing the same drum beat they were hearing, next thing you know, your foots tapping same as theirs was, next thing you know, you've figured out the first couple parts to the song, and I promise you, one day, you'll just absolutely move your hand to the right place kinda when the lead starts. You won't play it look for lick, but you'll START at the right place. And that's about half the battle. I can remember two distinct times this happened, and when I tell you what I was learning at the time, it may make sense as to what I"m talking about. One time, when I was learning a buncha Who stuff. One time, when I was learning a buncha songs of Appetite for Destruction (this one especially - as rock songs go, most of that album is probably not considered difficult, but Slash does move all the neck in most of those tunes). Now, think about how each of those guys play, and it should come as no surprise that THAT'S when "you'd get it". When you think of Slash's style, you think smooth transitions, big bends, long and lean. When you think of Pete Townsend, you DON'T think smooth. You think aggressive, choppy, lots of down down down licks. I'm telling ya, if you can ever get like IN THE SPEAKER, where you're playing with Slash, or with a Pete Townsend, or whoever it is you listen to, you could just catch his groove, and next thing you know, your hand just moves to where it should be when you hit that hard part.

One more - not near as long - learn/play stuff that's "forgiving" (see Pete Townsend). I'm old. Right now, I'm learning a bunch of James Taylor stuff. It's not at all forgiving. I mean a ONE STRING TAP that you miss is a serious eff up. Think Townsend every missed a string? Or Keith Richards (hell, a BUNCH of his cool tunes are played on a 5 string guitar, and on many, he's not even using the 5 he's got).

That's only cpl a points, and it's a ton of typing, and if I'm lucky, YOU are still reading. I won't hurt readers eyes with anymore, but I could tell in your post you want to "get good". My natural ability in the guitar is ZERO. I should be much better than I am for as long as I've been playing. So, as a fellow long sufferer, know that those things at least kept me playing.


edit - if I'd have had a 3rd point, it would have been what Breesus said about playing scales over and over. It took me years before I finally "shut up and listened." That helped a bunch too.
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 6:55 pm
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