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re: So our past few offseasons have just been absolutely terrible
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:21 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:21 am to Chad504boy
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you better be talking about lofton on Defense cause junior is a phony piece of shite.
he is our edge pass rush. we run a 3-4. without at least one top-level guy from the edge, it's a bad D
he's had 2 years of 10+ sacks and tons of QB pressures. those guys don't grow on trees no matter how big of a fricker he is off the field
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keeping said players would have hurt more than the disadvantage of cutting players.
i didn't say we should have kept them (junior at least). the mistake was the big deals they got
if they weren't part of the plan, then they shouldn't have gotten the deals in the first place. how many elite teams cut players in the 2nd year of big deals? how often do you see the pats, packers, seahawks, etc doing that? how often are those guys impact guys on their respective side of the ball? pretty much never. we had TWO in one offseason
no matter how you slice it, that is pretty historic (in the bad way)
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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if they weren't part of the plan, then they shouldn't have gotten the deals in the first place.
this falls under the whole hindsight is 20/20. I don't think anyone would argue that Junior was part of the future of this team until he had an epic meltdown of an offseason. There have been many posts, articles, comments from players that basically confirm that once Junior got his money, he completely changed. Not sure how you fault the front office for that.
In regards to Jimmy, I agree that it did not make sense to make this move 1 year after you gave him a big deal. The only rationale around it was SP decided he wanted to focus more on the run as most of our wins last year came when we ran the ball successfully. This philosophical change happened a year after the big contract. If Junior doesn't have his meltdown of an offseason; I don't think that trade hurts that much.
They also tried to trade Stills to Seattle (rumors only, but confirmed in Miami deal) for Unger; but had to part w/ Jimmy to get the Center they wanted. Plus, this may go into the Sproles category where the front office & coaches realized we were too predictable when Jimmy was in the game. It seamed we were throwing every time he was on the field.
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