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re: Game of Thrones: Who should get to kill ________? (spoilers)
Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:25 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:25 pm to OMLandshark
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Having your entire guard rape your son's wife and then having your son finish her off is about as evil as you can get
No doubt it f'ed up, it cruel and in-humane, but I believe his motives for doing that wasn't pure evil, he was teaching Tyrion a lesson, that Lion doesn't lay with a peasant girl.
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I'm willing to bet Tywin told the Mountain to kill Elia Martell as well for what he perceived as spurning his daughter
No doubt, I know he told Gregor to kill her and the children ( I don't know if the rape was part of that order.) But that was out of political motives. He and Robert couldn't have any targs with a claim to throne alive, or risk having the targ loyalist continue to fight and the war never end.
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Tywin is a complex form of evil, but I still think was evil none-the-less simply for his treatment of Tyrion.
Yes and No. there were times that he treated Tyrion well. Hell he made him hand of the king. Also I tend believe Tywin when he said " do you really think I'd let them execute My blood", then Tyrion made it hard for him when he demanded a trial by combat.
But did Tywin dislike Tyrion... yes... "all dwarfs are bastards in their father's eyes".
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Also there is that theory that Tyrion really isn't Tywin son and actually the Mad Kings ( after he raped Joanna) and if Tywin feels he could not be his son but just can't prove that goes to his resentment of Tyrion.
Im only playing devils advocate here, Like you said Tywin is a complex man, but I don't him as evil.
then again there varying degrees of evil
Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:32 pm to 68wDoc68w
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No doubt it f'ed up, it cruel and in-humane, but I believe his motives for doing that wasn't pure evil, he was teaching Tyrion a lesson, that Lion doesn't lay with a peasant girl.
If Jaime did the same thing, he wouldn't have done that to Jaime. What he did was just evil to Tyrion.
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Yes and No. there were times that he treated Tyrion well. Hell he made him hand of the king. Also I tend believe Tywin when he said " do you really think I'd let them execute My blood", then Tyrion made it hard for him when he demanded a trial by combat.
Well, he only made Tyrion Hand because he knew he was the only one besides himself who could actually control Cersei and Joffrey. After all the stupid crap that happened immediately after Robert died, he had to reluctantly admit that he needed Tyrion in that position. That was no reward from Tywin.
And while I think that he would have exiled him to the Wall if it weren't for the trial, I think after the Red Viper's death, he was for sure going to have him executed and was lying to Tyrion when he found him in the privy.
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Also there is that theory that Tyrion really isn't Tywin son and actually the Mad Kings ( after he raped Joanna) and if Tywin feels he could not be his son but just can't prove that goes to his resentment of Tyrion.
I will not argue with this theory, because it simply isn't even worth pondering.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:41 pm to 68wDoc68w
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there is that theory that Tyrion really isn't Tywin son and actually the Mad Kings ( after he raped Joanna)
THAT WASN'T RAPE!!!!!
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:05 am to 68wDoc68w
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No doubt, I know he told Gregor to kill her and the children ( I don't know if the rape was part of that order.)
The Mountain didn't kill the daughter that was Ser Amory Lorch. Here are three quotes by Tywin on the matter.
"Ser Amory dragged Princess Rhaenys out from under her father’s bed and stabbed her to death."
"I asked him afterward why it had required half a hundred thrusts to kill a girl of … two? Three? He said she’d kicked him and would not stop screaming. If Lorch had half the wits the gods gave a turnip, he would have calmed her with a few sweet words and used a soft silk pillow. The blood was in him."
"Ser Amory torn apart by a bear after the fall of Harrenhal. That ought to be sufficiently grisly to appease even Oberyn Martell."
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