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re: Game of Thrones S5:E6:"Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)

Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:12 am to
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:12 am to
I may be in the minority here, but that wasn't a rape.

As an analogy, think of Queen Gorgo allowing Theron to take her in 300. She doesn't want to have sex with him for pleasure, as she is reviled by him and hates him, but she lets him do what he wants to her so she can get what she needs in the political game. She later gets her revenge as well.

Very similar situation here. Sansa knows beforehand the Bolton's killed her brother and mother. She makes the decision to play the game when Little Finger ask her on the way if she wants to turn around or stop being the scared girl. She tells Little Finger she is afraid of them, and he tells her she should be. She sat through the dinner we saw where Ramsey and his family were clearly off the deep end. She didn't try to escape or get help after that. She saw what Ramsey had done to Theon in the kennel and at that dinner. Miranda had already told her Ramsey had been hunting previous girls that bored him. Sansa also knew she could put the candle in the tower if she needed help, but she didn't. She went through with the wedding knowing full well it was not going to be enjoyable. Sansa makes the decision to put up with whatever is necessary for her to finally be able to avenge her family.

Posted by freeagent
Member since Oct 2014
910 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:22 am to
I think you're on the right lines here KingSlayer. I don't think it was a rape; I just use that term since that's what it is being described as. It was definitely him "taking her" and she may not have wanted to but she knows what she has to do. Honestly if this wasn't Sansa's virginity we may not even be talking about it quite like this. But I think that speaks to more to the point I was making in my last post. This is the last bit of purity being ripped from her and it's time for her to become a cold, contriving player in The Game.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150965 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

I may be in the minority here, but that wasn't a rape.

As an analogy, think of Queen Gorgo allowing Theron to take her in 300. She doesn't want to have sex with him for pleasure, as she is reviled by him and hates him, but she lets him do what he wants to her so she can get what she needs in the political game. She later gets her revenge as well.

Very similar situation here. Sansa knows beforehand the Bolton's killed her brother and mother. She makes the decision to play the game when Little Finger ask her on the way if she wants to turn around or stop being the scared girl. She tells Little Finger she is afraid of them, and he tells her she should be. She sat through the dinner we saw where Ramsey and his family were clearly off the deep end. She didn't try to escape or get help after that. She saw what Ramsey had done to Theon in the kennel and at that dinner. Miranda had already told her Ramsey had been hunting previous girls that bored him. Sansa also knew she could put the candle in the tower if she needed help, but she didn't. She went through with the wedding knowing full well it was not going to be enjoyable. Sansa makes the decision to put up with whatever is necessary for her to finally be able to avenge her family.

FWIW, I agree with this almost fully. Sansa knows what's up with that freak, and she knows that she just has to basically put up with his bullshite long enough for pieces to start falling into place. She knew that he'd hit it on their wedding night, and so she just bent over and took it. Of course it was not pleasurable, and having Theon there obviously added another layer of awkward to it, but she knew what she was gonna put up with based on all of the things leading up to it like you said.

Hopefully we will have some sort of payoff for all of it. But then again, it's GoT, so she could very well die soon...and on top of that, she's a fricking Stark, and we all know how much GRRM hates that family, so she may have died during the week between episodes for all we know.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:13 pm to
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I may be in the minority here, but that wasn't a rape.
where were you guys when I was getting downvoted into oblivion for claiming it wasn't rape earlier in the thread
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