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Should the Saints trade up to get Leonard Williams or Vic Beasley? Why?

Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:02 am
Posted by adamk311y
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:02 am
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Posted by tke857
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:03 am to
neaux....if anything trade back and acquire more picks we sorely lack young quality depth
Posted by MegaTiger3
League City, TX
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:04 am to
Get back to class Kelly
Posted by MegaTiger3
League City, TX
Member since Jan 2014
2141 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:07 am to
But no we should stay where we are and get the best LB/OL available. Collins or Beasley at 13 would be nice
Posted by SaintlyTiger88
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2013
2185 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:29 am to
It's going to take a lot to trade up in this draft and the teams at the top are relishing their spots because they know there is premier talent in this draft. There's a lot of talk about different teams trading up for Mariota, especially the Eagles.

As far as the Saints are concerned, I think they should stay put, they will be able to land a stud player at #13. I can see them possibly trading the #31st pick though. I would love it if Beasley or Williams fell to them at #13, but I doubt they will. That's what makes the draft so interesting though, you never know what will happen during the draft, so all we can do is just keep guessing till draft day!
Posted by SaintlyTiger88
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2013
2185 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:29 am to
It's going to take a lot to trade up in this draft and the teams at the top are relishing their spots because they know there is premier talent in this draft. There's a lot of talk about different teams trading up for Mariota, especially the Eagles.

As far as the Saints are concerned, I think they should stay put, they will be able to land a stud player at #13. I can see them possibly trading the #31st pick though. I would love it if Beasley or Williams fell to them at #13, but I doubt they will. That's what makes the draft so interesting though, you never know what will happen during the draft, so all we can do is just keep guessing till draft day!
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Leonard Williams or Vic Beasley

One of these is not like the other
Posted by Henten
biloxi
Member since Mar 2015
159 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:47 am to
NO if any trade it needs to be back.Why ? because they have had the fewest draft picks of all NFL teams.
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 10:51 am
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Leonard Williams


Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
27061 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:37 am to
no jeff they shouldn't
Posted by Tigerfan_95
Member since Jun 2014
2932 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:34 pm to
I would trade up only for Williams or fowler. 2 of the best players in the draft who can make a immediate impact. Getting one of those guys is better than getting 1 with a pot addiction and another guy who may or may not work out. I was all for Gregory until I really started thinking about it, he may end up being the next Blackmon, Deion Jordan or josh Gordon
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:35 pm to
Depends on what it would take to move up. Though, I'm really falling in love with the idea of drafting La'el Collins.
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

One of these is not like the other

That takes on a confusing meaning when its a choice between only two options. I mean, logically speaking, they're both correct because one being the correct answer makes the other option reflexively also the correct answer.

Next time, just say what you mean instead of shrouding your point in a paradox that will keep my mind spinning like I'm trying to figure out a Singapore test question.
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
1905 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:43 pm to
I was against trading up until last night. If we can grab Williams or Fowler and only give up a second and/or a tree I'm for it.

If we can grab one of those guys plus a stud ILB at 31 i would consider our defense greatly upgraded. 9 rookies won't make the active squad. I'm all for maximizing our chances of a hit with more picks, but those two guys are as close to "can't miss" plus big impact as you can find.
Posted by 24chevrolet48
Beat Street
Member since Aug 2006
1855 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:12 pm to
Should the Saints trade up to get Leonard Williams or Vic Beasley?

would people like to give
#13
#31
and God know what else for one of these over paid rookies ??

NO WAY !!!!!!!!!!

I would be so disappointed if they did.

We need PLAYERS!! 1st, 2nd and 3rd round PLAYERS!!!!

Not just 1 Player and bunch of 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th round players.


This Saints Defense needs Multiple players.

at #13 there's a player that would make this Defense better.
at #31 combined with our #13 pick there's a player that would make this Defense a lot better.
at #44 there's a player that would make this Offense better.
Plus those 3rd rounders ... we can be a Great team


Total picks: 9
Top-50 picks: 3
Top-100 picks: 5

New Orleans Saints picks in 2015 NFL Draft
Round Overall Notes
1 13
1 31 from Seahawks JIMMY GRAHAM
2 44
3 75
3 78 from Dolphins Kenny Stills
5 148
5 154 from Chiefs Ben Grubb
6 187
7 230
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6269 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:15 pm to
Now that Gregory and Ray are falling, i'd rather just select BPA at 13 and take one of them at 31. I think one maybe both fall that far.
Posted by 24chevrolet48
Beat Street
Member since Aug 2006
1855 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

neaux....if anything trade back and acquire more picks we sorely lack young quality depth


I agree with this!!

Let's pull off a New England Patriots move, Trading back has never hurt them huh ...

especially at #13 , If we can't get the player we want. Trade with a team like cleveland and get there #19 plus a 2nd or 3rd rounder .. that would be sweet.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59691 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by 24chevrolet48
Beat Street
Member since Aug 2006
1855 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:41 pm to
The Saints' affinity for aggressively moving up has proven especially damaging when they have sacrificed future assets for current players. In 2011, the Saints acquired the 28th pick in the draft from the Patriots in exchange for their second-round pick and a future first-rounder, which ended up being the 27th pick in 2012. In essence, the Saints gave New England a second-rounder to wait a year and move up one spot. The Saints then used that 2011 pick on Alabama running back Mark Ingram. In his career, Ingram has averaged a pedestrian 4.2 yards per carry. In his best season, in 2014, Ingram ranked 13th in the league with 109 DYAR (nearly 40 percent of his career total). As they did in the Sedrick Ellis trade, the Saints created a situation where the only way they could get a reasonable return would have been for Ingram to become a star player. Additionally the Saints ignored their own history of finding running backs on the cheap (like Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, and Khiry Robinson), and their inability to develop Reggie Bush into an every-down back.
Posted by TexasSinger
Front Row
Member since Feb 2006
4522 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:38 pm to
I only trade up for Fowler and won't be surprised if this happens.
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