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re: 1989-1990 LSU Basketball: What do you remember the problem being?
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:55 pm to atltiger6487
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:55 pm to atltiger6487
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It's not all Fess Irvin's fault. We blew a sizable second half lead. I don't remember every detail of that game, but when a team blows a nice lead, it's usually fair to put a big chunk of the blame on the coach.
On that same note, Dale also presided over the infamous game when we blew a 31 point second half lead over Kentucky ---at home. One of the most sickening things I've ever witnessed as an LSU fan.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:57 pm to Alt26
While the 1990 team had a problem with defense, that was not a characteristic of most of the teams from the 1980s. The 1986 through 1988 teams (and possibly others) were pretty stout defenders and had guys like Ollie Brown, Bernard Woodside and Ricky Blanton. The offense on the other hand usually relied on the lone abilities of star players. That would often break down vs. quality teams and you'd see long scoring droughts.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 4:30 pm to Manswers
quote:the problems in 1989-1990 stemmed from having two undersized SGs playing together in the back court. When they played open court basketball it was fine, when they played in the half court it often didn't work. Neither CJ nor MW were adept at making others better and setting up team mates. Certainly neither one was suited to run an offense.
YEAR G/GS FG/FGA PCT FT/FTA PCT PTS AVG REB AVG PF/D AST TO BLK STL
1988-89 32/32 359/739 .486 163/200 .815 965 30.2 108 3.4 70/2 130 113 6 55
1989-90 32/32 305/662 .461 191/210 .910 889 27.8 81 .2.5 66/3 102 117 1 52
TOTALS
Games/GS 64/64
FG/FGA 664/1,401
FG% .474
FT/FTA
354/410
FT %.863
Points 1,854
PPG 29.0
Rebounds 189
RPG 3.0
PF 136/5
AST 232
TO 230
Blocks 7
Steals 107
CJ had a 102:117 AST: TO ratio as a Soph in 89-90 which is 3.65 TO/G. That is pretty terrible for a college PG and especially terrible for a guy averaging 27.8 PPG surrounded by so much talent. The year before with very little talent around him he averaged 30.2 PPG and 130 AST:107 TO (3.34 TO/G)
CJ had an amazing freshman season in 88-89 but he had a green light to shoot whenever he wanted. When the talent around him came up, he had a tough time going from ball dominant to complementary. MW being a ball hog only made it worse. Unfortunately I dont see MW's stats
The pieces of individual talent were astonishing in 89-90 but it wasnt a very cohesive basketball team.
The shooting and play making balance that a player like Steph Curry shows is exceedingly rare. CJ never quite mastered it and that stunted his NBA career (with the injuries)
Posted on 4/14/15 at 4:40 pm to bilbo72
Bilbo you get the cigar ,you nailed it on/the head !
Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:11 pm to Big EZ Tiger
Coach Brown to you,,not calling him coach or not using his last name is an insult to one of the greatest coaches in NCAA history.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:16 pm to timm6971463
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Coach Brown to you,,not calling him coach or not using his last name is an insult to one of the greatest coaches in NCAA history.
Oh shut up...he wasn't my coach. I loved Dale. He had his coaching flaws, but I loved him.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:56 pm to Broski
Dale was subpar if you believed every thing that came out of yesterday's Sabin (McKnights) mouth,the then darling of ESPN !
Posted on 4/14/15 at 6:03 pm to bgtiger
Yea ! The group think stupids are still around back!ed up by their kids
Posted on 4/14/15 at 6:14 pm to Nuts4LSU
Nuts ! Thank you for knowing something,ignorance is always rampant on this board if you are a negatiger and feel insulted ,you deserve it !
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 4/14/15 at 6:26 pm to TigerNlc
Running doesn't build brains!
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