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uPER = (1 / MP) *
[ 3P
+ (2/3) * AST
+ (2 - factor * (team_AST / team_FG)) * FG
+ (FT *0.5 * (1 + (1 - (team_AST / team_FG)) + (2/3) * (team_AST / team_FG)))
- VOP * TOV
- VOP * DRB% * (FGA - FG)
- VOP * 0.44 * (0.44 + (0.56 * DRB%)) * (FTA - FT)
+ VOP * (1 - DRB%) * (TRB - ORB)
+ VOP * DRB% * ORB
+ VOP * STL
+ VOP * DRB% * BLK
- PF * ((lg_FT / lg_PF) - 0.44 * (lg_FTA / lg_PF) * VOP) ]

The PER is heavily influenced by DRB and 3 pointers (which favors Bigs-aka why Wright has always had solid PER numbers for a career backup)so as we move forward in the 3 point era of basketball, younger guys seem superior. all of these guys (with the exception of KD) had most of their primes as Alpha Dogs, unlike Pippen...and to compare Career PERs from active players (like Wade) with some left in the tank verses 17 seasons of Pippen who was broken down by the end is scientifically invalid. When Wade hits season 17 and is a role player, lets see
-ETA: and when you factor in Wade's enormous USG of course numbers increase
-KG was a terrible Alpha Dog and afraid to play Center in his prime.
-DWade-a slashing guard prone to injury versues the greatest wing defender and one of the greatest point forwards of all time.
Durant-starting a franchise, probably..but as of now he's a seven footer with foot problems.

but the question youre asking is swayed to players as prospects. 7 footers are always look like better prospects,especially those who can shoot.

All of these players at their best were never the best player in the NBA.

Pippen is probably the best athlete of the four and the best playmaker.

This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 6:46 pm

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Posted by oleyeller

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Posted on 4/8/15 at 6:44 pm to RonBurgundy

wade would be dead last

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Posted by VADawg

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Posted on 4/8/15 at 6:45 pm to RonBurgundy

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but as of now he's a seven footer with foot problems

And one of the most gifted offensive players who has ever stepped on an NBA floor.

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Posted by Lester Earl

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Posted on 4/8/15 at 8:05 pm to RonBurgundy

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Pippen fanboy when I stated in the thread that Grant Hill is my favorite player of all time.

the fact you emphatically said Pippen was better than these 3 lead me to believe that you were a fan boy. And the fact you called him a top 15 player all time.

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.and to compare Career PERs from active players (like Wade) with some left in the tank verses 17 seasons of Pippen who was broken down by the end is scientifically invalid.

Do you want me to compare Wade's prime to Pippens?

In the other thread all you could do was take a small chunk out of his career and portray him as a top player of all time. You act like the first & last few years of his career dont count.

Wade's 8 year prime PER is 26.6.

Pippen's is 20 or 21, depending on what years you want to use.

How are DRB and 3's heavily weighed yet Wade has the highest PER of any of these guys. He cant shoot threes, and he is just an ok rebounder.

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but the question youre asking is swayed to players as prospects.

No, it's which player you want in their prime. No one but you wants Pippen. that speaks volumes to your point, or lack thereof.

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Pippen is probably the best athlete of the four and the best playmaker.

you cant count on 1 hand the 7 footers that can do what Durant does.

Wade was as explosive and powerful coast to coast as just about any 2 guard i can remember.

KG for a 6'11" guy, you're talking one of the top 5 most athletic big men of all time, when you combine athelticism and coordination

I can think of a lot of players like Pippen.

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