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re: Draft "Rumor" about the Saints possibly moving up to 5th
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:30 am to Midget Death Squad
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:30 am to Midget Death Squad
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If you have a LB that only can pass rush, you create a weakness in the run game that will be exploited
And here is the best & worse thing about draft season when it comes to defensive players. Everyone makes assumptions based on stats, physical measurables & personal favorites without even actually trying to understand the role of each individual player in their collegiate scheme. Some guys are going to he asked to take on blockers while someone else is assignment is to make the tackle. People are going to look at that as, "well this guy is poor against the run because he can't get off of blocks or his tackles numbers are low." It's a bunch of crap.
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If not then we will be consistently giving up 7 yard passes to RB, TE and Slots.
Guess what? This happens to even the best pass defending LB's & best defenses. It's what allowed the Patriots to beat the Seahawks in the past Super Bowl against the best secondary & one of the best linebacker coverage groups in the league. No matter how hard you try to downplay it, running backs & tight ends will always be considered a mismatch in offensive coordinators eyes. We both will be dead & gone & that fact will remain true. Just look at what the Saints did to Patrick Willis & Navarro Bowman in the 2011-12 playoff game. At the time, that tandem was probably the best cover linebackers in the game & the Saints made them both look silly in the second half of that game.
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The best example I can think of with this is Shawne Merriman. Every year he was overrated as a player because he could rush the passer.
Really? It couldn't have been because of the steriods. Naw, it couldn't have.
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I don't care how well you rush the passer; if you can't perform at the other critical aspects of your game then you are not worthy to be a 1st round pick.
Well somebody needs to tell these guys that they didn't deserve to be 1st round selections & tell the teams that drafted them, they fricked up.
This guy almost single handily ruined the attempt for a perfect season in 2009. How? Why? Because Payton didn't think he would play because of a neck injury. He didn't game plan for him. Bushrod got no help from the backs or the tight ends & he got his lunch frickin ate one on one.
Backs & tight ends can't catch passes when they have to stay back to help in pass pro. If they do happen to go out in the pass pattern, their routes won't be aggressive, attacking routes. It will be to go out 3-5 yards & sit as a checkdown. There's always more than one way to skin a cat.
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your analysis is too simplistic
Is my analysis still too simplistic?
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:13 pm to BigBrod81
Out of all those guys mentioned and you showed pics of....only 2 of those went in the top 5. And one of them is also considered one of the greatest defensive players of all time.
There aren't any Demarcus Wares, Von Millers and LTs in this draft.
Fowler MIGHT be a Suggs clone but is he worthy of a top 5 pick?
Not to me. Top 10 yes but people are underestimating how fricking hard it is to get into the top 5 of the NFL draft. It could potentially set back a franchise. Look at the Redskins
There aren't any Demarcus Wares, Von Millers and LTs in this draft.
Fowler MIGHT be a Suggs clone but is he worthy of a top 5 pick?
Not to me. Top 10 yes but people are underestimating how fricking hard it is to get into the top 5 of the NFL draft. It could potentially set back a franchise. Look at the Redskins
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:36 pm to BigBrod81
You are making a false argument. None of those players you are showng are JUST pass rushers. LT had 9 picks for crying out loud.
I'm not against taking a great pass rusher IF he can also play other phases of the game, like the guys you are showing.
I'm 100% against taking someone who is just a pass rusher as those guys rarely work out. If you can't play at least two phases of the game on defense you aren't going to last.
I'm not against taking a great pass rusher IF he can also play other phases of the game, like the guys you are showing.
I'm 100% against taking someone who is just a pass rusher as those guys rarely work out. If you can't play at least two phases of the game on defense you aren't going to last.
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