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re: Alonzo mourning says Jordan would average 50 today.

Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:18 am to
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:18 am to
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Jordan is my favorite all time for sure and Im not doubting him. But how would he get to the FT line more now than he did then?



Well for one the Euro step became popular after Jordan retired. If he was playing in today's NBA you can sure as shite bet he would be a master of it to draw a couple extra fouls/make a couple more shots a game.

Additionally, I don't think there are many who will debate the guys inside today are nothing like the guys in the 90s, making the lane more accessible which is where tons of fouls are drawn (90% of shooting fouls are in the paint).

I also think he was a guy, who when you said "he can't" he would work that much harder to prove you wrong.

And since we are bashing Alonzo, should we also bash Phil Jackson who said he would average 45?

I can admit that overall athletes are better today because it's obvious when you look on the court. However, the 4s and 5s today are not better than those in the 90s. The athletic ability has really hit the guards and small forwards, who now dominate the league.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:25 am to
The illegal defense rules kept the lane more open when Jordan played than it is now. So you are incorrect in saying the lane is more accessible now.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:27 am to
LINK

Interesting read at the least.

Drexler: “Oh, tremendously better, from shooting percentage to points per game everything would be up, and our old teams would score a lot more points, and that is saying something because we could score a lot back then. I do think there should be an asterisk next to some of these scoring leaders, because it is much different trying to score with a forearm in your face. It is harder to score with that resistance. You had to turn your back on guys defending you back in the day with all the hand checking that was going on. For guys who penetrate these days, it’s hunting season. Yes, now you can play (floating)zone(legally), but teams rarely do.”

Dumars: “It would have been virtually impossible to defend Michael Jordan based on the way the game’s being called right now.”

Recall that Dumars was in Front office of an NBA team through 2014.

I never said he'd score 50, but 40 wouldn't surprise me in the least
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:05 am to
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I can admit that overall athletes are better today because it's obvious when you look on the court. However, the 4s and 5s today are not better than those in the 90s. The athletic ability has really hit the guards and small forwards, who now dominate the league
I agree with this 100%. I think the comments about what Jordan could do today vs yesteryear is generally ignorant. (not you). People always say guys were tougher "back then". Because of the amount of $ being paid to NBA players now, the scorers get all the highlights and people generally assume that defense is terrible across the league. Its harder to score now than it was then. Again, I would never doubt Jordan but I just don't see any real reason to believe he would produce more now vs then.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:36 am to
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Additionally, I don't think there are many who will debate the guys inside today are nothing like the guys in the 90s, making the lane more accessible which is where tons of fouls are drawn (90% of shooting fouls are in the paint).


Offensively, yes no question. However in today's game almost every team has at least 1 decent "rim protector" big whose sole purpose is to change shots at the rim. And these guys are always near the rim now due to the recent defensive rules. Jordan was a great finisher, but its much harder to finish at the rim these days against good teams which is why great teams focus on floor spacing and balance (as opposed to the Mark Jackson/Barkley back down with everyone on the other side of the floor) to help create good shots (now I feel like I'm criticizing the Pels with that last statement).
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