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re: Hultberg said today on his show that he thinks Martin and Mickey

Posted on 3/19/15 at 6:55 am to
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
7936 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 6:55 am to
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he can run the floor, drive from the wing or elbow


Disagree. One of the things he needs work on. Ball handling skills are average at best.
Turnover machine. He can run the floor, just not with the ball in his hands.


I hope they both stay. But Jordy talks to JJ all the time and is well connected with others in the know. When he speaks, I tend to listen.
This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 6:57 am
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
6704 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 8:32 am to
. Ball handling skills are average at best.
Turnover machine. He can run the floor, just not with the ball in his hands.




This is so true ,it's called creating your own shot . He can't do it yet. He even has trouble jumping off the dribble . He will go though and according to Mickeys dad they are waiting for NBA grade to decide.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14515 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 8:54 am to
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Disagree. One of the things he needs work on. Ball handling skills are average at best.
Turnover machine. He can run the floor, just not with the ball in his hands.


Average for 6'10" is really good. The fact that he is serviceable enough to do it is why he's able to do so well.

I'd also like to get your definition of turnover machine, because Martin is not one. He averages 2.8to/game playing for 35 minutes/game. For comparison, Okafor from Duke averages 2.6/game. Le'Bryan Nash from Okla St. averages 3.1/game. Rakeem Christmas from Syracuse averages 2.5/game. Terran Petteway from Nebraska averages 3.4/game.

I just went looked up a couple players off the top of my head. While you can make the argument for Mickey that he is a turnover machine, it's more of a product of how teams respond to Martin/Mickey and our use hi-low passing.
Posted by Dylan
Bayou Barbary
Member since May 2009
3417 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:56 am to
Ya'll have to remember he is 6'10. You can tell he has a natural pretty shot, its not falling great yet, but he has the natural form to improve and become consistent. Mickey is the opposite his is a forced looking shot. The same goes with Martin's ball handling skills, he's not great, but he's much smoother with the ball, then someone like JOB or Mickey. He's honestly a smoother, more controlled, ball handler then even Hornsby. He has all the tools and traits to be an NBA starter. That's what NBA teams are looking at, his potential. He can improve a lot if basketball is his full time job and he has access to the best coaches.

Please don't take this wrong. I'm not bashing other players, I'm just looking at it from NBA scouts' point of view, and it's just my opinion. I know Martin could improve to a potential lottery pick if he stayed though. With the buzz carrying over from how he ended this year, with the sick dunks, and scoring. Also with all the attention we'll have from our incomming recruits. Both bigs could improve they're stock if they stayed. I just don't see it happening though, hope I'm wrong.
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