Started By
Message

re: Marilyn vos Savant and the history of the Montel Hall question

Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35255 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Conceptually, I agree. It is never a 1/3 proposition since the host is always going to drop a goat for you. In reality, it is always a 50/50 proposition once you accept that the Host will, no matter what you pick initially, always drop a goat.
But you are basically choosing 2 doors when you switch (2/3 chance). So it is technically two choices, but the odds are still 2/3 to 1/3.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:47 pm to
I have a better idea.

Take any two doors, where you know that there is a car behind one and a goat behind the other. Pick one. Switch or don't switch, I don't care. Record your results over 100 tries. (Hint: if you flip a coin this will be the same, and easier).

The point is: If you accept carrying the initial 3-door probabilities forward, the mathematical proofs are correct. But that is a lie; the problem has been changed to eliminate one non-car door. That is what people intuitively understand, and why they say that it is a 50/50 shot at that point.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

But you are basically choosing 2 doors when you switch (2/3 chance). So it is technically two choices, but the odds are still 2/3 to 1/3.


That's how I like to look at it. There is no chance involved in Montel's decision. Deliberately showing you a goat and allowing you to switch your door for his remaining door is equivalent to not showing you a door and letting you trade your door for his two, at least one of which, of course, will conceal a goat.
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

But you are basically choosing 2 doors when you switch (2/3 chance). So it is technically two choices, but the odds are still 2/3 to 1/3.


Yes, which is why I clarified my agreement "conceptually" versus reality.

But, in the end, you are not actually being given 2 chances to pick the car. Remember, the Host will ALWAYS drop a goat for you so it is simply impossible to pick 2 goats. So, it was always one car and one goat to pick from.

If you picked the car correctly (your 1/3 pick), you will now be given yet another chance to screw up and change to the wrong pick but this time you have a 50/50 chance instead of the "initial" 1/3 chance.

With all that said, the explanation of the solution is provided in the article and there is nothing, that I know of, that any of us can do to refute the results.


first pageprev pagePage 1 of 1Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram