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re: The 2015 Non-GS Tennis Thread
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:24 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:24 pm to Bunk Moreland
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And is that crew any softer than what Martina, Chris, Steffi, or Seles had to compete with?
Way softer.
Henin got hurt though and would have took majors away from Serena. Maria has won, but introduced mental midgetry with her close eyes, turn back to reset after every point. She has factually underachieved big time.
Hingis already Borged her way out plus injuries. But talk about a talent. She will be always underrated by the masses but never faced Serena in either one's prime.
Plus you forget Sanchez-Vicario aka no-neck, Sabatini (the first Sharapova mental midget) in the older group. The older era was way more mentally stable/tougher.
Edit: Serena has not exactly been consistent in her career either. Good for her the tour sucks so bad now. It makes her look like a "tough" competitor.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:33 pm to Taurus
goodness, the line officiating has been horrible thus far in the stan/kyrgios match. maybe 5 overturns made by hawk-eye thus far. chair umpire already stating that he will make a change soon with one of the linesmen ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:04 pm to Taurus
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Hingis already Borged her way out plus injuries. But talk about a talent. She will be always underrated by the masses but never faced Serena in either one's prime.
How are you defining Hingis' prime to exclude her from having played Serena?
Serena / Hingis 2002
They played several times.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:14 pm to Taurus
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Edit: Serena has not exactly been consistent in her career either. Good for her the tour sucks so bad now. It makes her look like a "tough" competitor.
What's crazy about this is that it does not appear you are trolling. Which means that you are unaware of how blatantly blatantly wrong you are here.
In Chris Evert's peak, nobody could beat her until Martina focused on fitness and reached her peak.
And then from that point nobody could beat Martina for like five years, until Graf came around.
And nobody could beat Graf until Seles came along.
And it wasn't until that point that you had like more than two or three women who were even decent at the game. That's when Serena and Venus were on the scene, Hingis was playing, Graf was still playing, all 423 lbs of Seles was back playing. And so they could only sleepwalk through a tournament until the quarters, whereas Chris Evert in the mid 70s wasn't even playing a girl with a pulse until the final.
To the extent you have any argument at all, it would be that the women's game isn't quite as good at the very top end, but even that's questionable. There was never really a time when Venus, Serena, Hingis, Seles, and Graf were all their best.
Any argument about depth is just horrifyingly wrong. Like, you would be invited to punch yourself in the face type wrong. And your argument about the very top -- to the extent that is your argument -- is questionable to quite questionable.
Vika, Sharapova, Serena, and Kvitova can all legitimately play the game. It wasn't just a few years ago when Clijster was still playing and she was absolutely top notch. And now you've got a bunch of young guns coming up on the scene -- the muguruza girl, Keys, etc. -- who are all giving indications of being really good.
I think what you're probably doing is that simple minded thing where you connect a dot between Serena winning a ton with your imaginary conclusion dot that the field must be weak. Don't take that argument to the supreme court, holmes.
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