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re: More information about declining bobwhite quail numbers

Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:30 pm to
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10269 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:30 pm to
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Although culprits such as roadrunners, raccoons, cattle egrets, skunks,
hawks, weather, and especially fire ants are often blamed for the demise of
quail, the fundamental reason for declining quail numbers is loss of
habitat.


I just do not believe this. Before the mid 80s all predators were trapped very hard. Lots of guys made a living doing it. I was in my mid 20s before I saw a live bobcat. Now we are over ran with predators, it's nothing to see a family of coons come to your feeder or see several bobcat, fox and coyotes while hunting. Then throw in the feral cats, it's easy to see that all these predators have got to take a heavy toll on birds
like quail.

One other thing that may affect them too is none of the timber companies burn anymore they spray and kill every stitch of vegetation but a pine tree in these cut overs.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45924 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:35 pm to
I think they cause much more damage to nest than to mature birds, that is still significant impact to the bird numbers...
Posted by Fat Neck
Member since Dec 2013
466 posts
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:40 pm to
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I just do not believe this. Before the mid 80s all predators were trapped very hard. Lots of guys made a living doing it. I was in my mid 20s before I saw a live bobcat. Now we are over ran with predators, it's nothing to see a family of coons come to your feeder or see several bobcat, fox and coyotes while hunting. Then throw in the feral cats, it's easy to see that all these predators have got to take a heavy toll on birds
like quail.

One other thing that may affect them too is none of the timber companies burn anymore they spray and kill every stitch of vegetation but a pine tree in these cut overs


While I completly agree with you on predator expansion, I dont agree with you on the burning thing

You can look at most any WMA in western LA and see thousand upon thousand acre of pine land not sprayed like the industrial forest with large parcel that is burned:
1. Fort Polk
2. Clear Creek
3. Peason Ridge
4. Large parts of Kisatchie

And all of them recieve relative zero hunting pressure and have almost no quail for practical purpose.you can drive through any of them and see tons of burned acreage. If there was still seed population why wouldnt thehy be crawling like roaches around these places?
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 12:14 am to
I said it before & I will say it again till Yall get it 1 burn all the damn grass,2 water get rid of it you want it as dry as possible 3 land lots of it un interrupted land. Then you will have quail it's that simple
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24732 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 12:28 am to
quote:

I just do not believe this. Before the mid 80s all predators were trapped very hard. Lots of guys made a living doing it. I was in my mid 20s before I saw a live bobcat. Now we are over ran with predators, it's nothing to see a family of coons come to your feeder or see several bobcat, fox and coyotes while hunting. Then throw in the feral cats, it's easy to see that all these predators have got to take a heavy toll on birds
like quail.


Bring back wolves. Would solve a lot of those problems.

However, habitat loss is the main culprit. Everything else is a byproduct of habitat loss or degradation.
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