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Stringer Bell: Mistakes were made. (The Wire)
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:19 pm
Stringer is a fan favorite character because of his ambition and pragmatism but I'd like to examine where he chose...poorly.
1. Not getting Avon out of the way. Avon himself told Stringer he wasn't hard enough for the game right before Stringer told Avon he whacked Deangelo, perhaps Avon was right. (another mistake, telling Avon about Dee).
2. Attempting to use Omar to get Brother Mozuen out of the way... I'm sure it seemed brilliant to Stringer at the time but when you play with fire like those two, you gonna get torched.
3. Being too ambitious in the business world without proper education and networking. Clay Davis would have bled Stringer dry if given the opportunity. If only Stringer would have hedged his bets with the development connections and not relied on the "goose" of Clay Davis.
I'm sure there's several other mistakes... Feel free to add...
1. Not getting Avon out of the way. Avon himself told Stringer he wasn't hard enough for the game right before Stringer told Avon he whacked Deangelo, perhaps Avon was right. (another mistake, telling Avon about Dee).
2. Attempting to use Omar to get Brother Mozuen out of the way... I'm sure it seemed brilliant to Stringer at the time but when you play with fire like those two, you gonna get torched.
3. Being too ambitious in the business world without proper education and networking. Clay Davis would have bled Stringer dry if given the opportunity. If only Stringer would have hedged his bets with the development connections and not relied on the "goose" of Clay Davis.
I'm sure there's several other mistakes... Feel free to add...
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:27 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
quote:Pretty sure he had a bunch of education or at least they alluded to that in the show.
Being too ambitious in the business world without proper education and networking
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:27 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Stringer's problem was that he was too dumb for the game he was trying to play. I always felt awkward when he regurgitated his community college nonsense trying to sound smart.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:30 pm to Melvin
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Pretty sure he had a bunch of education
Baltimore Community College setting the world on fire yo
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:32 pm to hendersonshands
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Stringer's problem was that he was too dumb for the game he was trying to play.
Yeah, Avon called him out on that too
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:34 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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1. Not getting Avon out of the way. Avon himself told Stringer he wasn't hard enough for the game right before Stringer told Avon he whacked Deangelo, perhaps Avon was right. (another mistake, telling Avon about Dee).
2. Attempting to use Omar to get Brother Mozuen out of the way... I'm sure it seemed brilliant to Stringer at the time but when you play with fire like those two, you gonna get torched.
both of these are Avon problems that Stringer tried to fix, though
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3. Being too ambitious in the business world without proper education and networking. Clay Davis would have bled Stringer dry if given the opportunity. If only Stringer would have hedged his bets with the development connections and not relied on the "goose" of Clay Davis.
he messed up here, but in the big picture, it wasn't a big failure. $250k is nothing to his empire
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:35 pm to Melvin
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Pretty sure he had a bunch of education or at least they alluded to that in the show.
Not book education, experience "real word" education of how things work in the white collar business world. The stuff they don't teach that in college.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:39 pm to hendersonshands
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I always felt awkward when he regurgitated his community college nonsense trying to sound smart.
Only time I remember him doing this was in the copy shop with low level dudes who probably never graduated high school. So his community college class would have him coming off as smart, relative to them, I guess.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:40 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
He was a great number 2, but when Avon got locked up he got in way over his head. Tried changing things way too dramatically. His biggest error though, by far, was going after Brother Mouzone who was on another level intellectually.
"You what the most dangerous thing in America is, right? A ni##@ with a library card."
"You what the most dangerous thing in America is, right? A ni##@ with a library card."
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:40 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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2. Attempting to use Omar to get Brother Mozuen out of the way... I'm sure it seemed brilliant to Stringer at the time but when you play with fire like those two, you gonna get torched.
I think this was his only real mistake. Stringer's biggest weakness IMO was he was not always being as direct as he needed to be. He should have just explained what was happening with the towers to Avon and BM. Avon would have been extremely pissed but he would have had to deal with it because he was in prison.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
His only mistake was thinking a thug could play a bigger game. Should have just let the Jew lawyer play the white man games.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:41 pm to Cosmo
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His only mistake was thinking a thug could play a bigger game. Should have just let the Jew lawyer play the white man games.
which he was already in the process of doing before avon snitched on him to brotha
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
Also, watched s1e1 remastered on hbogo today, looked grainy imo
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:42 pm to PortCityTiger24
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but when Avon got locked up he got in way over his head.
when avon got locked up, they had their best financial success and he set things up so that they could own things legitimately and outright
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:true.
both of these are Avon problems that Stringer tried to fix, though
They were problems for Stringer that Avon created. Avon always seemed to be Stringer's road block to smooth sailing and Stringer's inability to solve these problem through Avon first is ultimately his undoing.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
Was the jew lawyer the biggest POS in the show? Yes imo
:noantisemitism:
:noantisemitism:
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:43 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Avon always seemed to be Stringer's road block to smooth sailing and Stringer's inability to solve these problem through Avon first is ultimately his undoing.
their undoing
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:44 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Stringer needed Avon though, he wasnt hard enough. And when he tried to be hard (offing Omar on church day) he fricked things up.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:44 pm to mikelowery1911
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Stringer's biggest weakness IMO was he was not always as direct as he needed to be. He should have just explained what was happening with the towers to Avon and BM. Avon would have been extremely pissed but he would have had to deal with it because he was in prison.
Exactly.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:45 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
I get what you are saying and agree to most of your perspective.
But I have always thought that stringer thought he was smarter than everybody else, especially Avon, it wasn't until Avon confronted him on getting played by a white collar hustler that he realized his shortcomings.
But I have always thought that stringer thought he was smarter than everybody else, especially Avon, it wasn't until Avon confronted him on getting played by a white collar hustler that he realized his shortcomings.
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