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re: Satanic Temple puts up display at Michigan Capital

Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:43 pm to
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No, that's only provisionally verifiable to the person who dies, if it's true. That's kind of a goofy way to define something as verifiable.
I'm understanding "verifiable" to mean that a particular truth claim (belief) is able to be confirmed or denied. If I, personally, am able to verify whether or not my belief is true when I die, I count that belief as verifiable.

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If a proposition cannot be verified in a substantive way that can be shared with others, it's not verifiable.
Why is the sharing of the outcome necessary for a proposition to be verifiable? Let's use this as an example:

Proposition - I believe that when the body dies, the soul goes to either Heaven or Hell depending on what a person believes while alive.

Outcome - Upon death, my goes to Heaven.

Does the outcome verify my proposition (belief)? I would say it does in this example, regardless of whether or not it can be shared with other living persons.

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Otherwise, the crazy lady next door could "verify" that she's being abducted by aliens every night. If she can't provide substantive evidence of this belief to others, then it's not verifiable
What you are asking for is a scientific measure that can objectively prove or disprove a belief. What if no scientific measure exists due to the limitations of science, itself? Does that mean a person cannot verify a belief through experience?
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:56 pm to
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I'm understanding "verifiable" to mean that a particular truth claim (belief) is able to be confirmed or denied. If I, personally, am able to verify whether or not my belief is true when I die, I count that belief as verifiable.
That's the thing, you can't. Your premise is not true.

Premise: If I, personally, am able to verify whether or not my belief is true when I die

The bolded is the problem. You can't verify if your belief is not true if you are wrong. You won't exist. That means the conditions are not met to satisfy your premise.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 12:57 pm
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