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re: Fergusons famed and reliable "witness 40"--

Posted on 12/19/14 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 10:57 am to
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I know of many privileged kids that have done worse but lived to see another day. They aren't getting called "thugs."


Either you believe he tried to get the cop's gun or you don't. If you don't, I understand your sympathy for Mr. Brown, but the evidence doesn't support that position.

If he did try to disarm the cop - as empathetic as I might be for his overall situation growing up poor and black in Ferguson, I have no sympathy for him, no qualms about calling him a "thug" (video from the store, evidence he attacked the cop and tried to disarm him) and, further, assert unequivocally that he got what he deserved.

I hope that doesn't make me a bad guy. I'm making these determinations based on the available evidence, not on any other basis.

ETA: Italian mobsters are rightfully called "thugs". The KKK are rightfully called "thugs". Timothy McVeigh was a "thug" - there shouldn't be any racial tinge to the word when I use it, therefore.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 11:00 am
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:02 am to
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If he did try to disarm the cop - as empathetic as I might be for his overall situation growing up poor and black in Ferguson, I have no sympathy for him, no qualms about calling him a "thug" (video from the store, evidence he attacked the cop and tried to disarm him) and, further, assert unequivocally that he got what he deserved.

I don't really think you believe that once someone tries to disarm a cop that person forever loses his right to live, even if he broke off that encounter and tried to escape and was no longer threatening the cop or anyone else.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 11:08 am
Posted by trackfan
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:05 am to
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Either you believe he tried to get the cop's gun or you don't. If you don't, I understand your sympathy for Mr. Brown, but the evidence doesn't support that position.

I believe Brown initially attacked Wilson which led to the first shots being fired, but I also believe that Brown tried to give himself up before the last shots were fired.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:09 am to
I don't think Wilson cold bloodily gun the kid down, but there is really nothing for me to believe that he went for the gun besides Wilsons testimony.

There are no finger prints of browns hands on the gun, the holster or on Wilsons pants or the bottom portions of his shirt. There's DNA evidence of his blood on the gun, but that could be due to the close proximity of the first initial shot.
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