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re: Rand Paul backs Obama on Cuba

Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:45 pm to
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The people didnt want to be Communist. This wasnt some rising up of the people to install a communist state. There were multiple groups fighting against Batista and the Cuban Government in the revolution. Many of them were not socialist or communist. When they finally won and forced Batista out, the first president and the first prime minister were lawyers who were pro-business liberals. But Fidel was in control of the military and eventually kicked them out. But he still denied being a communist or a socialist. The revolutionaries took control on January 1 1959, Castro first admitted he wanted a socialist government in April of 1961. It took him two and a half years to even admit that to the people. Everyone who had any money fled Cuba. The poor supported him because he gave them stuff and because they had no choice. What has happened in Cuba over the last 50 years is not what the Cuban people wanted. Some of you people need to read a book sometime.



Rather a tough argument to accept that a regime that has survived 50 years is contrary to what the people want.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:14 pm to
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Rather a tough argument to accept that a regime that has survived 50 years is contrary to what the people want.

Do you honestly believe that the durability of a government is a reliable measure of its desirability? If so, you aren't giving tyrants much credit for the lengths they will go to to stay in power.
Posted by ryanlsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
1261 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:35 pm to
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Rather a tough argument to accept that a regime that has survived 50 years is contrary to what the people want.


I guess the North Koreans love their situation. And the Russian people loved being under communism for 70 years, except when the government collapsed, and now the communist party of Russia has about 150,000 members total. When a dictator takes over and kills or imprisons anyone who disagrees with him and then has his propaganda taught in elementary schools they tend to hold on to power.

Plus over a million Cubans have left the country. That is a huge part of an island whose population was just 7 million when Castro took over.
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