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re: Rand Paul backs Obama on Cuba
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:27 pm to Porky
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:27 pm to Porky
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This is where I differ with Rand because I don't give a damn whether another country is communist. That's their business.
The people didnt want to be Communist. This wasnt some rising up of the people to install a communist state. There were multiple groups fighting against Batista and the Cuban Government in the revolution. Many of them were not socialist or communist. When they finally won and forced Batista out, the first president and the first prime minister were lawyers who were pro-business liberals. But Fidel was in control of the military and eventually kicked them out. But he still denied being a communist or a socialist. The revolutionaries took control on January 1 1959, Castro first admitted he wanted a socialist government in April of 1961. It took him two and a half years to even admit that to the people. Everyone who had any money fled Cuba. The poor supported him because he gave them stuff and because they had no choice. What has happened in Cuba over the last 50 years is not what the Cuban people wanted. Some of you people need to read a book sometime.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:40 pm to ryanlsu
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Rand Paul: Cuba Isolationists Just Don’t Get It
Sen. Rand Paul
December 19, 2014
Paul is the junior U.S. Senator for Kentucky.
Let's hope cooler heads will ultimately prevail and we unleash a trade tsunami that washes the Castros once and for all into the sea.
I grew up in a family that despised, not only communism, but collectivism, socialism and any “ism” that deprived the individual of his or her natural rights.
As a kid, I listened to the stories of an old Ukrainian fisherman who talked of fighting the Bolsheviks. More times than I can remember, I’ve heard horror stories of those who fled Castro’s Cuba. I ran for office to fight for the individual and against statism of any kind anywhere and yet… I think a policy of isolationism toward Cuba is misplaced and hasn’t worked.
I support engagement, diplomacy, and trade with Cuba, China, Vietnam, and many countries with less than stellar human rights records, because I believe that once enslaved people taste freedom and see the products of capitalism they will become hungry for freedom themselves.
President George W. Bush wrote that “trade creates the habits of freedom,” and trade provides the seeds of freedom that begin “to create the expectations of democracy.” Once trade begins it is hard to hide the amazing products of capitalism. The Soviets used to produce documentaries depicting poverty in America but it backfired when Russian viewers noticed that even in the poorest of circumstances you could still see televisions flickering in the windows. Once trade is enhanced with Cuba, it will be impossible to hide the bounty that freedom provides.
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:45 pm to ryanlsu
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The people didnt want to be Communist. This wasnt some rising up of the people to install a communist state. There were multiple groups fighting against Batista and the Cuban Government in the revolution. Many of them were not socialist or communist. When they finally won and forced Batista out, the first president and the first prime minister were lawyers who were pro-business liberals. But Fidel was in control of the military and eventually kicked them out. But he still denied being a communist or a socialist. The revolutionaries took control on January 1 1959, Castro first admitted he wanted a socialist government in April of 1961. It took him two and a half years to even admit that to the people. Everyone who had any money fled Cuba. The poor supported him because he gave them stuff and because they had no choice. What has happened in Cuba over the last 50 years is not what the Cuban people wanted. Some of you people need to read a book sometime.
Rather a tough argument to accept that a regime that has survived 50 years is contrary to what the people want.
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