What you misunderstand is that history will one day prove that Coach Saban is among the greatest ever. He may finish as THE best ever. To underestimate the advantage that Les had by following Saban is either stupid or ignorant. I argue the opposite point only when talking to a fricking gump. I was at LSU from 85-90 when many of the best La athletes didn't even look at LSU. Saban changed that.

What would you say if Saban quit tomorrow but the next coach wins 10 games/yr behind him? Who built the Bama dynasty? The same guy that built this one. You forget to mention that Saban won the first NC...which I'd say was a much tougher task than the first.

Would Les have a NC if he started at LSU in 2000?

Would Saban have lost 21-0 to ANYONE with the talent that we had in 2011? If you give Les (alone) credit for all of those wins then you should put that loss squarely on Les. And it was a very important one. No coincidence who he lost to. We've gotten used to that.

Les wouldn't have coached at LSU for 10 years had he started from scratch. Les is successful mostly because he hires good coordinators and is a likable guy. That translates into coordinators that probably stick around longer. LSU also spends more on our assistants than any other school in the country.

Another fact is that we've put more players in the NFL than any other school. That tells me that Les has had an advantage in talent. Look at what our rookies are doing right now. Are you ignorant to the fact that they are basically calling Miles out by questioning why we lost that many games last year.

By all means, if you want to call Les a coaching genius, go right ahead. All the more reason that he should have the confidence to leave what he has at LSU to build a dynasty at Michigan. Your stupid if you think that Les will ever win another national title outside of LSU. My concern is that he may not have what it takes to win another one for LSU. He's too stubborn and his excuses are bullshite. How does Ohio St prepare 3 QB's but Les can't prepare ONE.

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Posted by la_birdman

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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:09 am to SL Tiger

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What you misunderstand is that history will one day prove that Coach Saban is among the greatest ever

No, I don't misunderstand that at all. I think Saban is a great coach. I'm not going to drool all over the guy but I will give him credit, he is a great coach. Something you seem to be incapable of doing with Miles, since you have dodged my question once already.

So getting back to what I just asked, did I misunderstand you or not? You said the trend continued with Miles. So what he's done for the last 10 years is just that, a trend? Like it was just luck?

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if you want to call Les a coaching genius, go right ahead

I never called him a genius either. I think he's a good coach but he's got flaws, just like any other coach. That includes your all powerful Saban. Saban losing to UAB, ULM, Saban whining for that last second to be put back on the clock in last season's Iron Bowl, Saban putting out sumo wrestlers on the kick return in the same game. Crap, Saban himself said he's never seen a game end that way and the one time he does see it happen, he's to blame for it.

Miles does have his flaws too, clock management and QB development being the two bigs ones, I will grant you that.

On the corollary, he's also the only, write it down, only college to coach to beat Saban more than once. Google it if you think I'm wrong.

It's interesting that you can't give the man the credit he deserves. Put your personal feelings aside for once and look at what he's done since he's been here.

This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 12:13 am

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Posted by GeauxTigerTM

Member since Sep 2006

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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:09 am to SL Tiger

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What you misunderstand is that history will one day prove that Coach Saban is among the greatest ever. He may finish as THE best ever. To underestimate the advantage that Les had by following Saban is either stupid or ignorant. I argue the opposite point only when talking to a fricking gump. I was at LSU from 85-90 when many of the best La athletes didn't even look at LSU. Saban changed that.

What would you say if Saban quit tomorrow but the next coach wins 10 games/yr behind him? Who built the Bama dynasty? The same guy that built this one. You forget to mention that Saban won the first NC...which I'd say was a much tougher task than the first.

Would Les have a NC if he started at LSU in 2000?

Would Saban have lost 21-0 to ANYONE with the talent that we had in 2011? If you give Les (alone) credit for all of those wins then you should put that loss squarely on Les. And it was a very important one. No coincidence who he lost to. We've gotten used to that.

Les wouldn't have coached at LSU for 10 years had he started from scratch. Les is successful mostly because he hires good coordinators and is a likable guy. That translates into coordinators that probably stick around longer. LSU also spends more on our assistants than any other school in the country.

Another fact is that we've put more players in the NFL than any other school. That tells me that Les has had an advantage in talent. Look at what our rookies are doing right now. Are you ignorant to the fact that they are basically calling Miles out by questioning why we lost that many games last year.

By all means, if you want to call Les a coaching genius, go right ahead. All the more reason that he should have the confidence to leave what he has at LSU to build a dynasty at Michigan. Your stupid if you think that Les will ever win another national title outside of LSU. My concern is that he may not have what it takes to win another one for LSU. He's too stubborn and his excuses are bullshite. How does Ohio St prepare 3 QB's but Les can't prepare ONE.

I've said this a bunch before but I'll say it again here because this post is a fine example of it. there is SO MUCH both wrong and simply filled with baseless assumptions in this post that it can;t be taken seriously on whole.

And then, like someone took over your brain for a second, you type that last sentence which actually is a solid question!

But it has to be ignored because of all the other putrid crap you posted it before it...with the assumption that you accidentally made a point simply by tossing out as many complaints as you could and one accidentally stuck.

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