re: So was Garner put in a choke hold or not?

The interesting aspect of this to me, and I have as many friends in law enforcement, DA's office, US attorneys as anyone as I help a bunch of them get these jobs is how many people think this shite could never happen to you. It happens all the time, to all kinds of people. They (DA's I know) are probably the least trusting people on cops I know. But they have obviously seen a lot more shite than I have. I have had cops go way over he line with me on more than one occasion and I was a Judge for a while. I have also had them so incredible control when they could should have been jerks.

They are people like everyone else, there are good ones bad ones, bad days etc. I agree with the decision somewhat in Ferguson. He would never be convicted so i didn't really matter if he was indicted or not. He may be civilly liable I don't know. But this is clearly negligent homicide just like it is if you hit a kid in a crosswalk, or kill someone in a fist fight by going over the edge. He should at least been indicted as he might of been convicted. The number of cops killed unarmed civilians isn't even being tracked right now but I am sure the numbers would be staggering.

Like my buddy the DA for last decade said to me recently, "If you only knew man"