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re: What would North America be like today had the American Indians been left alone?

Posted on 11/27/14 at 11:28 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 11/27/14 at 11:28 pm to
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Yep, and by the 16th century they had yet to domesticate animals nor discovered the usefulness of the wheel, regularly practiced human sacrifice and had an economy based on forced slavery usually by kidnapping. The roads you mention were more akin to footpaths than anything else. Lets stop with the revisionist history. If left to their own devices the natives of North America would be the most backwards and uncivilized people on earth. The slums of Rio would look palatial in comparison.




At the same time, Europeans were also practicing slavery, and burning heretics at the stake, which looks an awful lot like human sacrifice to me. Most people lived in squalor, and even the nobility stank to high heaven because nobody bathed. No one was particularly civilized by modern standards. Europeans certainly weren't morally superior, and although they had some technological advantages, they conquered North America mostly by accidentally, and sometimes intentionally, introducing fatal diseases to the native population.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 12:57 am to
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Europeans were also practicing slavery


While very true European slavery was miniscule when compared to the slavery in the Americas at this time. Entire wars were carried out and tribes decimated only to capture slaves.


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and burning heretics at the stake, which looks an awful lot like human sacrifice to me


Although I disagree with the idea, burning heretics at the stake was a punishment for a crime. Cutting out thousands of peoples hearts to appease the wind god is a bit different, sorry you are incapable of distinguishing the difference.


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Most people lived in squalor, and even the nobility stank to high heaven because nobody bathed.



Not even going to comment on this drivel.


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Europeans certainly weren't morally superior, and although they had some technological advantages, they conquered North America mostly by accidentally, and sometimes intentionally, introducing fatal diseases to the native population.



WTF does this even have to do with the question at hand? Did you type it just to feel better about yourself? And by the way it is completely false.
Posted by ecb
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 7:35 am to


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Posted by Jim Rockford on 11/27 at 11:28 pm to cave canem
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Yep, and by the 16th century they had yet to domesticate animals nor discovered the usefulness of the wheel, regularly practiced human sacrifice and had an economy based on forced slavery usually by kidnapping. The roads you mention were more akin to footpaths than anything else. Lets stop with the revisionist history. If left to their own devices the natives of North America would be the most backwards and uncivilized people on earth. The slums of Rio would look palatial in comparison.



At the same time, Europeans were also practicing slavery, and burning heretics at the stake, which looks an awful lot like human sacrifice to me. Most people lived in squalor, and even the nobility stank to high heaven because nobody bathed. No one was particularly civilized by modern standards. Europeans certainly weren't morally superior, and although they had some technological advantages, they conquered North America mostly by accidentally, and sometimes intentionally, introducing fatal diseases to the native population.

but this will upset the "Great White Man" revisionists
This post was edited on 11/28/14 at 7:39 am
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