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Counterfeits reduce the value of the real thing. I cannot trust the singing talent of anyone who came to prominence in the post-Auto Tune world. There were always tricks, double tracking, extra takes, vocal effects, special rooms, etc., to bring someone up to speed for a record. They could always pantomime live, but that was tougher back in the day without the sophisticated computerized equipment they have today. Ironically, as talent has actually collapsed - they fake it on the recording (with Auto-tune) and often lip synch it "live" - not even bothering with trying to sing live, even with auto tune assistance.

So, I don't care if it was American Idol, or some other Karaoke event, Carrie Underwood may be able to "sing her arse off" - but it is impossible to judge with all the tools available and proven counterfeits in the market.

So you're choosing to ignore the live performance I posted and instead are chalking up how great she sounds to "not being able to be trusted because autotune and because lip syncing technology is better now"? And that since those things exist now, that means that there aren't any talented people anymore?

You're either a complete idiot, or you're trolling. And something tells me it's a little bit of both.

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Posted by 777Tiger

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Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:56 am to CocomoLSU

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You're either a complete idiot, or you're trolling. And something tells me it's a little bit of both.

I have to agree with Major Midnight, he's not an idiot or trolling, it's probably that you're too young to have ever witnessed any true, natural talent.

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Posted by Ace Midnight

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Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:10 am to CocomoLSU

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So you're choosing to ignore the live performance I posted and instead are chalking up how great she sounds

Because autotune is also available live. And I can almost guarantee she uses it, even if she's a great singer.

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nd that since those things exist now, that means that there aren't any talented people anymore?

I didn't say that. I said (or should have made clear) that it is tough/impossible to discern.

See, I think Gaga is talented - most of it isn't my cup of tea, it is overproduced and her way, way, way overblown image gets in the way of actually seeing that. And I could be fooled.

(I never said in this thread that CU couldn't sing - I even said, she could probably have been a Honkette or whatnot in the 70s - back when singing artists absolutely had to have talent because looks were irrelevant - Grand Funk and Dr. Hook, for example, were so ugly, one would have to avert one's eyes.)

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