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re: Would you trade Les Miles for Bret Bielema?

Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by AcetylCoA
Pasadena, California
Member since Nov 2009
2656 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:45 pm to
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His philosophy only works with the right personnel and he's got square pegs going in round holes right now.

Exactly. It works when we have 1st or 2nd round talent at QB. But how often are you going to be able to have a first or second round QB on your roster to zip balls into one route double coverage?
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 7:46 pm
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
78249 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:45 pm to
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So we are evaluating the health of the programs based off of a one game vacuum look especially when that was the first sec win in almost three years for one of the teams?

No, more like contrasting the directions of the teams based on the season which includes last weeks game. LSUs record is better than Arky's, but Ark is the better team than LSU right now and may end the year with a similar record. The main difference is Ark had to play UGA.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
72895 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:46 pm to
People wanted/want hugh freeze and sumlin over Les. Offensive geniuses that got shut out this season.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41594 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:46 pm to
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brett will have Arkansas a better program than miles will have lsu starting next year



One thing is for certain, We know you and many others will hope for this to be true.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
29319 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:47 pm to
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Right now Bert is trending way up and Les is trending way down.

Just a few weeks ago it was the complete opposite.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41594 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:48 pm to
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Just a few weeks ago it was the complete opposite.


Absolutely but the guys with the anti lsu agenda on here won't see it that way
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:49 pm to
Makes me hungry just thinking of it...but no.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268678 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:50 pm to
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His philosophy only works with the right personnel and he's got square pegs going in round holes right now.


Exactly. It works when we have 1st or 2nd round talent at QB. But how often are you going to be able to have a first or second round QB on your roster to zip balls into one route double coverage?


Yep. Miles philosophy is to keep the score low and win in the 4th. The old Bo/Woody grind it out style. I don't think there's a coach in D1 that has as many 4th quarter close games as Miles. I saw the number and it's staggering.

It works when you have the offensive personnel to move the ball when you have to. He doesn't have that right now. We've only had one season since 2007 with that kind of QB play.
Posted by jonanthans
West Monroe, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2410 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:55 pm to
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RogerTheShrubber
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How many did LSU have?


You are helping make my point, LSU had less than half of that, around 130 total. That has even MORE of a bearing on how inept Bielemas offense was, cause we kept giving them the ball right back. Its a mirror offense.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268678 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:57 pm to
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You are helping make my point, LSU had less than half of that, around 130 total. That has even MORE of a bearing on how inept Bielemas offense was, cause we kept giving them the ball right back. Its a mirror offense.



You don't quite get the point. I'm not praising his offense, I'm telling you how shitty LSU's offense really is.

Arkansas is far more advanced than LSU's.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268678 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:58 pm to
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Right now Bert is trending way up and Les is trending way down.


Just a few weeks ago it was the complete opposite.


Yet a lot of LSU fans expected to lose to Arkansas. They've been improving all season long.
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 7:59 pm
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
74624 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:58 pm to
Yes. At the very minimum he believes in the forward pass.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
20349 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:59 pm to
With the food here Bert would probably need to be wheeled onto the field.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268678 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:59 pm to
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Yes. At the very minimum he believes in the forward pass.



Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41594 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:00 pm to
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Arkansas is far more advanced than LSU's.


Based on what? I'd love to see a factual breakdown and not just some rant meme that many of the anti lsu fans have been parroting about Arkansas' offense.

I'm sure I'll hear crickets though.
Posted by jonanthans
West Monroe, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2410 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:00 pm to
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RogerTheShrubber



Im in agreement with you that LSUs offense is shitty, but Arkys is not much better. Just because they doubles our offensive production shouldnt be a ringing endorsement for BB.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
74624 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:02 pm to
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He's done a fantastic job of coming in and setting up his system and making it work. Arkansas is a better team than LSU right now and he's building something solid, with less talent.

He's running the offense Les would like to run with a QB who isn't that mobile.

Les has done some great things at LSU but only an idiot would think Miles has the program going in a better direction than BB does at Arkansas. They've improved dramatically on offense and defense this year.


Bingo
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268678 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:03 pm to

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Im in agreement with you that LSUs offense is shitty, but Arkys is not much better. Just because they doubles our offensive production shouldnt be a ringing endorsement for BB.



Yes it is. In fact, it's the kind of offense Miles would love to have.

He doesn't want to put up 500 yards a game. He wants to control the clock, grind it out. Arkansas is running the offense he would love to run, except they throw to tight end...
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41594 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:06 pm to
So Bret bielema is officially the rant's flavor of the week favorite coach?

This

Is

Awesome
Posted by the crue
Chackbay-Thibodaux
Member since May 2008
3996 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:07 pm to
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One thing is for certain, We know you and many others will hope for this to be true.
I state my opinion, so that means I want lsu to fail yall miles lovers are a trip
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