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I was kind of hoping other liberals would bring more to this thread than falling back on the "well Christianity sucks too".

I DO think Christianity is part of the same religious sickness. As does Maher. However, the point at the forefront here is that liberals let Muslims get away with WAY more than Christians for fear of being labeled as Islamaphobic and its bullshite.

There's no doubt that there are some sick, sick people who practice Islam, and on a per capita basis, Muslims have more sick practioners than Christians do. However, my point is that most Christians don't really take the New Testament to heart in the way they live their lives. Most Chrisitians live their lives according to the "an eye for an eye" credo not the "turn the other cheek" credo. At least Muslims are up front about what they believe. Here's how Malcolm X put it:

"There's nothing in our book, the Quran -- you call it "Ko-ran" -- that teaches us to suffer peacefully. Our religion teaches us to be intelligent. Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery. That's a good religion. In fact, that's that old-time religion. That's the one that Ma and Pa used to talk about: an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth, and a head for a head, and a life for a life: That's a good religion. And doesn't nobody resent that kind of religion being taught but a wolf, who intends to make you his meal."

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Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:04 am to trackfan

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However, my point is that most Christians don't really take the New Testament to heart in the way they live their lives. Most Chrisitians live their lives according to the "an eye for an eye" credo not the "turn the other cheek" credo. At least Muslims are up front about what they believe. Here's how Malcolm X put it:

and you were posting "straw man" pics a few posts ago in this thread

that argument is pure straw man

the issue is western liberals want to promote western liberal ideals, but islam, as it is practice in the vast majority of muslim areas, is opposed to western/liberal ideas.

Christianity, pretty much everywhere, does not reject these ideals, and is a major reason for the proliferation of these ideals across the world.

that is the argument

a secondary argument is that western liberals have NO problem criticizing any socially conservative position of christianity, even though it is much more socially liberal than islam (essentially everywhere on earth). that is pure hypocrisy in ideological ideas

these polls reflect both arguments are valid

This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 11:07 am

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