The Battle Flag has never been an overt sign of racism or treason - although it has been used as such by the Klan, other white supremacists and neo-Nazi groups.

There should be no heartburn with a private citizen flying such a flag, either in the traditional colors, purple and gold, etc., without additional indication that it demonstrates a racist or white supremacist intent.

After all, our ancestors bled under that banner and there is something to be said about pride.

This is yet another example of PC police gone awry.

Like the nonsense of attacking Ole Miss' symbol, Colonel Reb. Minnesota fans aren't regarded as "pro Viking", are they? I mean, the raping, pillaging and plundering the Vikings did would make a pirate blush.

Likewise for the Buccaneers. The whole point of a mascot is to be a symbol of a fierce competitor - that's all - not an endorsement of their lifestyle or criminal activity.

That's all the "Rebel" mascot is to me. That's all it should be. Ditto for "Redskins".

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Posted by LSUBoo

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Posted on 9/16/14 at 9:10 am to Ace Midnight

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although it has been used as such by the Klan, other white supremacists and neo-Nazi groups.

And therein lies the problem.

The swastika used to be considered a good luck symbol, then the Nazis came along and ruined that vibe.

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Posted by GetCocky11

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Posted on 9/16/14 at 9:11 am to Ace Midnight

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although it has been used as such by the Klan, other white supremacists and neo-Nazi groups.

And this is why it is a controversial symbol today.

ETA: I'm probably coming off as very anti-flag, which isn't the case at all.

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Posted by BIGDAB

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Posted on 9/16/14 at 9:30 am to Ace Midnight

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The Battle Flag has never been an overt sign of racism or treason

That flag represented the idea of racial superiority from the beginning.

That flag is the result of a group of states fighting to secede from the union in order to continue prosper under the institution of slavery.

Your ancestors bled under that flag, because they fell victim to propaganda by the powerful elite who did not want to see a profitable way of life end. The vast majority of enlisted southern soldiers were poor and did not own slaves. They were fear mongered into supporting a slavery, because of a fear of free black men and women being equal to them.

The following quote is from John Townsend, cotton plantation owner.

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“It will be to the non-slaveholder, equally with the largest slaveholder, the obliteration of caste and the deprivation of important privileges,” he cautioned. “The color of the white man is now, in the South, a title of nobility in his relations as to the negro,” he reminded his readers. “In the Southern slaveholding States, where menial and degrading offices are turned over to be per formed exclusively by the Negro slave, the status and color of the black race becomes the badge of inferiority, and the poorest non-slaveholder may rejoice with the richest of his brethren of the white race, in the distinction of his color. He may be poor, it is true; but there is no point upon which he is so justly proud and sensitive as his privilege of caste; and there is nothing which he would resent with more fierce indignation than the attempt of the Abolitionist to emancipate the slaves and elevate the Negroes to an equality with himself and his family.”

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