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re: #flatearthers please check in. NYPost editorial shits all over climate change

Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 4:54 pm to
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His field of expertise is astrophysics not climatology or other relevant disciplines. It's like asking your insurance agent's opinion on your upcoming brain surgery.
Odd. This is the first time I recall you making this criticism. You have had ample opportunities, though.

Though, as noted, numerical modeling techniques are pretty ubiquitous.

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Fulks is a whore who works for a conservative think tank and writes op-ed pieces on global warming.
Why does that make him wrong?

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He has published only two peer-reviewed studies, the last one in 1981.
as long as we're doing ad hominem...When was your last climate paper published?

What are your specific criticism of the piece (not the person)?

This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:36 pm to
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What are your specific criticism of the piece (not the person)?
Well we can start with this:
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Satellites also show that a greater area of Antarctic sea ice exists now than any time since space-based measurements began in 1979. In other words, the ice caps aren’t melting.
This is a dumb argument. Maybe it's a dumb argument because the guy is a partisan and trying to score points. Maybe it's a dumb argument because he has emeritus disease. Maybe he's actually dumb (dumb physicists do exist).

But that's beside the point: This argument is dumb for a very obvious and straightforward reason: Antarctic sea ice is not "the ice caps." It's not even "the Antarctic ice caps." If you put Antarctic sea ice gains up against Arctic sea ice losses, it's no contest. If you put Antarctic sea ice gains up against Antarctic land ice losses, it's also no contest. And it's even been predicted by climate models as old as grunge. It's not exactly some devastating paradox. It's what happens when you get melt runoff from a big-arse continent covered in ice sheets. Or to fancy it up: owing to the intensification of the near-surface halocline caused by the increased supply of water at the oceanic surface, the convective mixing of cold near-surface water with warmer, underlying water becomes less frequent, resulting in the increase of sea ice and slight reduction of sea surface temperature.

So there's a specific criticism of the piece. If you would like to defend the thesis that Antarctic sea ice gains prove the health of the polar ice caps, go ahead. But I'm not going to engage some other "look a squirrel" about how Al Gore said a Dumb Thing in 2009, or What's the Ideal Temperature, or Why I Hate Freedom, because none of those things have to do with the premise of the argument. Which, again, is hella dumb. Anyone who uses "Antarctic Sea Ice ++" as a talking point is basically marking themselves as Nega-Gore (or Nega-Tuba in the context of this forum), someone who will say anything to hate on AGW regardless of factual merit.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 7:39 pm
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