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re: Jon Huntsman: Gay marriage is inevitable.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:03 pm to genro
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:03 pm to genro
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There's no such thing as being gay. Homosexuality is a behavior. The desire to engage in this type of behavior is no different than any other desire, say the desire to play basketball. No different than the desire for heterosexual sex. It's influenced by a myriad of genetic, personality, psychological, physiological, environmental, and cultural factors, like all human behavior. There's no logical sense in separating it as if it's different, boiling it down to some base "some people are born gay." It's just not the case. Gay and straight are a false dichotomy put forward by liberals to explain a much larger and dynamic pattern of behavior, and, to fabricate a false implication that homosexuality is purely genetic.
While environment may play a role in some people, I believe that for the most part, gay people are born with an inherent level of attraction toward the same sex. Far too many gay people say they had attraction toward the same sex from an extremely young age, around puberty when hormones start to kick in.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:20 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Right. Certain people may be born with certain tendencies. For some it may be overwhelming. I'm not saying people shouldn't be gay. I'm not necessarily against gay marriage. A certain genetic predisposition is probably true, but it probably varies in degree and can be influenced, nurtured, neglected, ignored, etc. I'm not talking about a gay person going into self loathing denial. Really talking more about basic personality and the cultural effect. Ultimately, if you start a group and legitimize it, people will join that group. It seems absurd (no straight person would ever have gay sex just to fit in, or be different!), but all groupthink seems that way. Many cultural groups engage in certain behaviors that seem repugnant to outsiders, sex is no exception.
That's my feelings on the matter. They were a subculture that was ostracized. That was wrong. We should tolerate better. Theyre not hurting anyone so we shouldn't begrudge anyone for being gay, the same way we shouldn't begrudge basketball players (another behavior tied into a specific culture). But to grant full legitimacy is overstepping. There's no reason to think homosexuality is good for society, and some troubling reasons to think it's not.
That's my feelings on the matter. They were a subculture that was ostracized. That was wrong. We should tolerate better. Theyre not hurting anyone so we shouldn't begrudge anyone for being gay, the same way we shouldn't begrudge basketball players (another behavior tied into a specific culture). But to grant full legitimacy is overstepping. There's no reason to think homosexuality is good for society, and some troubling reasons to think it's not.
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