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re: Should I continue to max out my 401K? I'm worried about it being raided one day
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:33 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:33 pm to SirWinston
Dude, think this through.
If the government can get your 401k, they can get your rental property. They can seize it, or get the money directly from the tenants. They can get the income from that via taxes, or pull it out of your bank account. If you think you are going to hide it in your mattress, then they will come through the front door and take it.
So unless you think you're going to shoot all those MFers I suggest you max out your 401k. In any event, your money is probably not going to be worth all that much if/when they start doing that sort of thing, because we'd be in such a economic shitter we'd probably be better off burning it for warmth.
Its like the people who buy gold thinking the economy is going to collapse, but don't have any food or weapons. I say, "OK dude, I'm gonna keep getting my yearly return, because we're both fricked either way if that worst case scenario plays out, and if it doesn't, your retirement is going to suck, if you get one."
If the government can get your 401k, they can get your rental property. They can seize it, or get the money directly from the tenants. They can get the income from that via taxes, or pull it out of your bank account. If you think you are going to hide it in your mattress, then they will come through the front door and take it.
So unless you think you're going to shoot all those MFers I suggest you max out your 401k. In any event, your money is probably not going to be worth all that much if/when they start doing that sort of thing, because we'd be in such a economic shitter we'd probably be better off burning it for warmth.
Its like the people who buy gold thinking the economy is going to collapse, but don't have any food or weapons. I say, "OK dude, I'm gonna keep getting my yearly return, because we're both fricked either way if that worst case scenario plays out, and if it doesn't, your retirement is going to suck, if you get one."
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 8/24/14 at 1:15 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:I somewhat disagree with this. Politicians still have to get elected and these untaxed accounts would be much easier for politicians to rally against and get certain voter blocks behind them.
If the government can get your 401k, they can get your rental property.
I am not saying I think it will happen, but if it did then 401k would get taken way before peoples physical property.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 1:58 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
I see your point but the first responder to you addressed my thought process - an untaxed 401K (especially over $3 Million / $5 Million / $7 Million, etc) is an easier sell politically. It wasn't taxed in the first place, if you accumulate that much in your 401K you were obviously enjoying a great career in the first place, etc. etc.
Didn't Greece recently raid the accounts of citizens with over $5 Million Euros in them or something? That's what planted the seed. Similar to our inheritance tax as well - I could see the figure arbitrarily being set that "anything over $3million in 401K accounts will be taxed now to help offset the Social Security shortage".
Didn't Greece recently raid the accounts of citizens with over $5 Million Euros in them or something? That's what planted the seed. Similar to our inheritance tax as well - I could see the figure arbitrarily being set that "anything over $3million in 401K accounts will be taxed now to help offset the Social Security shortage".
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 2:00 pm
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