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re: Muslim Terrorism and Hypocrisy

Posted on 8/23/14 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by genro
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Posted on 8/23/14 at 1:26 pm to
It's the Wahhabist movement within Islam. It's conservative, strict interpretation Islam that leads to this violence.

It is a very strong minority of Islam, comprising anywhere from 15-40% of all Muslims. The numbers are hard to find due to complex dogmatic reasons of the different factions and denominations. Also, The Wahhabists have no name for themselves, in many Muslim countries such as Iran and Turkey and Iraq they are ostracized as a small minority. However in Saudi Arabia they are the vast majority.

We need to stop the rhetoric on both sides. The majority of Muslims in the world are at least somewhat modernized - and agreeable to women's rights, democracy, and religious tolerance. However, the faction that is not is not just some marginal fringe group analagous to the KKK. It is a huge vocal minority that makes an impression on all Muslims.

And the fact is the Wahhabists - or whatever you call this large ultraconservative minority faction of Islam - is not compatible with Western Society. It is not compatible with freedom of religion, freedom of speech, women's rights, or the separation of church and state. We have to recognize this first. Then bomb, banish, or modernize the Wahhabists by any means necessary, and provide economic assistance and friendship to the modern Muslims. If they're not gonna draw the line between themselves, we will
This post was edited on 8/23/14 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/23/14 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

It's the Wahhabist movement within Islam. It's conservative, strict interpretation Islam that leads to this violence.

It is a very strong minority of Islam, comprising anywhere from 15-40% of all Muslims. The numbers are hard to find due to complex dogmatic reasons of the different factions and denominations. Also, The Wahhabists have no name for themselves, in many Muslim countries such as Iran and Turkey and Iraq they are ostracized as a small minority. However in Saudi Arabia they are the vast majority.

We need to stop the rhetoric on both sides. The majority of Muslims in the world are at least somewhat modernized - and agreeable to women's rights, democracy, and religious tolerance. However, the faction that is not is not just some marginal fringe group analagous to the KKK. It is a huge vocal minority that makes an impression on all Muslims.

And the fact is the Wahhabists - or whatever you call this large ultraconservative minority faction of Islam - is not compatible with Western Society. It is not compatible with freedom of religion, freedom of speech, women's rights, or the separation of church and state. We have to recognize this first. Then bomb, banish, or modernize the Wahhabists by any means necessary, and provide economic assistance and friendship to the modern Muslims. If they're not gonna draw the line between themselves, we will


Good post - The Wahhabists got a foothold in the ME after the House of Saud basically merged with them to form what is now Saudi Arabia. The agreement was that the Wahhabis would manage religion and the Royal Family would manage the government. The Grand Mufti of SA came out a few days ago and essentially condemned ISIS.

However, ISIS is more of a Salafi movement and considers the Saudi elite as apostates and therefore worthy of the death penalty.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58309 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 2:48 pm to
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It's the Wahhabist movement within Islam. It's conservative, strict interpretation Islam that leads to this violence. It is a very strong minority of Islam, comprising anywhere from 15-40% of all Muslims.



If this is accurate, the entire," it's only a tiny minority of Muslims" meme is blown out of the water!
Especially when one considers that 1.6 Billion of the worlds population is Muslim.
This post was edited on 8/23/14 at 2:55 pm
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