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re: Statistics: Why LSU will beat Wisconsin: A response to Wisc Trolls

Posted on 8/24/14 at 8:45 am to
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8659 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 8:45 am to
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They rotated series for the first six games, as reflected in the fact that Gordon actually had more carries. You can spin as backup, but you get as many or more carries to start... it is just an attempt at deflection. It wasn't till he faded in the second half that White started getting 5 more carries a game than him.


It wasn't 'fading' that gave White more carries than Gordon. Both RBs are plenty talented. Hell, White didn't become a full-time starter until his senior season and still ended his career as one of the better running backs to ever come through Wisconsin. It has been said time and time again that James White was the best RB in the 2014 draft class when it came to pass blocking. That is the reason he became the featured back in Wisconsin down the stretch. Does that mean Gordon is inferior in the pass game? Absolutely not. He was a raw prospect in that aspect of the game because of his use previously.

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ofcourse... two guys share the rock equally for half a season and one guys doesn't get any catches 'because of the other'. However you want to spin it buddy.


This is actually completely true. White was superior in the passing game, which has translated the pros, and received plenty more snaps.

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Again feel free to include a double digit loss where your guy got some meaningless yards. Congratulations - will gladly have him go for 125 and a double digit win. But to pretend he didn't fade in the back half as he lost carries to White is ignoring reality.


The fact that you believe his yards were meaningless tells me you did not watch the game. Your entire post actually tells me you did not watch much of Wisconsin and instead receive your information off of ESPNs player card.

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Yes he is... and we face top backs all the time. Not discounting he is a talent, but not since we made James disappear 3 years ago have I heard so much talk about a single dimensioned team that is going to take it to us. And that was a top 10 team that was a hell of a lot better than Wisconsin.


More relevant than what happened three seasons ago would be to look at what top running backs (i.e. Gurley and Yeldon) did to your defense last season.

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If you don't think there is a talent difference between LSU and Wisky then we can just leave it there. I guess that lack of vested interest by scouts doesn't apply to recruiting or the human eye


I am not sure what the OP said, but just about every Wisconsin fan would acknowledge a talent difference. You're kidding yourself if that will make any Wisconsin fan roll over. This has been said by every comparable opponent for the past decade or two. Yet, Wisconsin wins at a high rate. This does not necessarily means Wisconsin wins, but that attempting to convince Wisconsin fans that talent wins in the end will not do much good in our eyes.
Posted by WAR TIGER
Death Valley
Member since Oct 2005
4091 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:25 am to
Hoopsgalore,
I noted that one of your sentences went unfinished:
"Wisconsin wins at a high rate....." You forgot "against ranked teams".......

How many ranked teams did Wisconsin beat last year? One. And go backwards. 1 victory over a ranked team except twice you got 2 (over the last 7). In total, your record is 9-17 vs ranked teams. I wonder how different that would look playing Bama, Florida, Auburn every single year? Worse? Better?
You claiming a high success rate for wins, with your schedule, discredits you and your argument.

Further, someone please tell me how Gordon would produce playing LSU's schedule?

I think the other poster is trying to say that the bulk of Gordon's yards came against pushovers.

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