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re: Serious Question About the St Louis Outrage
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:46 am to 4LSU2
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:46 am to 4LSU2
I'm happy to talk about racial issues. I think it would be helpful, eventually.
But we can't. Not in a toxic environment where white people who say "wow, looting is bad" are shouted down as condoning the potential murder of the Brown kid. Not where noting that areas of high black resident concentration are generally not desirable places to live is considered taboo. Not where the media, the black community, the liberal white community, etc., refuse to acknowledge that when it comes to everyday violence, the black on white threat far exceeds the white on black threat, and that this leads to fear, some justified, some not.
But, from the white side, we'll have to acknowledge that this country was built without considering black people. They weren't in "our" framework for how we're going to move forward. While I think most institutionalized racism claims are ridiculous, it isn't ridiculous to recognize that a black kid in America grows up thinking a lot of schools, jobs, lifestyles, etc. just aren't for him. Some of that fault lies in the black community, but some whites refuse to even recognize that reality.
In sum, TLDR, I'm all for talking about it, but the environment just isn't conducive to a frank discussion.
But we can't. Not in a toxic environment where white people who say "wow, looting is bad" are shouted down as condoning the potential murder of the Brown kid. Not where noting that areas of high black resident concentration are generally not desirable places to live is considered taboo. Not where the media, the black community, the liberal white community, etc., refuse to acknowledge that when it comes to everyday violence, the black on white threat far exceeds the white on black threat, and that this leads to fear, some justified, some not.
But, from the white side, we'll have to acknowledge that this country was built without considering black people. They weren't in "our" framework for how we're going to move forward. While I think most institutionalized racism claims are ridiculous, it isn't ridiculous to recognize that a black kid in America grows up thinking a lot of schools, jobs, lifestyles, etc. just aren't for him. Some of that fault lies in the black community, but some whites refuse to even recognize that reality.
In sum, TLDR, I'm all for talking about it, but the environment just isn't conducive to a frank discussion.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:59 am to Pettifogger
Just throwing this out here...
A political blog called Gateway Pundit in the St. Louis area has been covering this thing since it started.
They're currently down due to server issues, but this morning they had a post up linking a report from the Ferguson PD.
Specifically, they're claiming that everyone busted in Ferguson so far for looting has been an individual with a prior criminal record who is not from Ferguson.
A political blog called Gateway Pundit in the St. Louis area has been covering this thing since it started.
They're currently down due to server issues, but this morning they had a post up linking a report from the Ferguson PD.
Specifically, they're claiming that everyone busted in Ferguson so far for looting has been an individual with a prior criminal record who is not from Ferguson.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:13 am to Pettifogger
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Not where noting that areas of high black resident concentration are generally not desirable places to live is considered taboo
I think it's fair to include poor when describing black communities this way. there are middle class black neighborhoods that exist in this country, that you never hear anything about, because nothing ever happens there.
Most racial issues would be non issues if the economic situation was better in some of the poorer neighborhoods.
Having said that I think a lot of the problems you see in large urban areas and some rural ones stem from black folk being marginalized through racist laws and policies. However, I also feel that after the large scale fight for civil rights ended a lot of the "talented tenth" turned their backs on the people in the "hood". Some of the best and brightest left, while the worse off stayed behind.
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