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re: Obama to speak to the nation this morning

Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:51 pm to
My Ogump-hater credentials are well established. But even I have to admit he was dealt a very lousy hand in Iraq. W screwed up the reconstruction. He also set the timetable Obama used to withdraw from Iraq.

Obama owns a lot of domestic messes, but there was only so much he could do in Iraq. He just shouldn't have done the self-congratulatory foreign policy rhetoric in 2012.
Posted by redandright
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:54 pm to
Iraq was largely stabilized by the time Bush left office.

Obama wanted to get out of there so badly, that he either didn't care, or didn't realize the consequences of announcing a timetable for withdrawal, and his not even half hearted attempt to get a SOFA with Maliki.

What we see now is the result of that.

And I think Obama really has no problem with that. I believe he wants to lessen the US presence and influence on the world stage, and turn it inward, to focus primarily on domestic issues.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

He also set the timetable Obama used to withdraw from Iraq.


That shite wasn't set in stone and if he wasn't comfortable with it he should have had the foresight to set a timetable that was congruent with his aspects of what a successful withdrawal would be. Proceeding with something you don't believe in and then blaming the previous guy is just stupid.
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